Lewis Hamilton

[matt1978]

Anything to do with it being a Tax haven or am I being cynical??

http://boards.msn.com/UKNewsboards/thread.aspx?threadid=440276

 

[peterd51]

HI,

the link doesn't do anything much on my PC, just loads a MSN page with no detail but it's probably down to my crappy ISP...

I presume the story is about Hamilton leaving the UK for somewhere with a low-tax government?

Well, even without the income of an F1 driver I'd advise any and all young people to get the hell out of the UK before it's too late.

If you have technical skills such as welding, plastering, building, etc, then there should be a job for you in New Zealand, Austaralia, etc. But where-ever it is it'll be far better than here!

I keep telling my kids that in 15 or 20 years time they'll wish they'd gone now but they don't listen...

unfortunately I'm too old or I'd be looking elsewhere.

Regards
Peter

 

[malcolm]

You can still go Peter. My mother is moving from sunny Leeds to France early next year and she's 60.

Now that the clocks have changed and it'll be dark, cold and damp for the next 6 months I'd wish Hamilton all the best, and hope he realises he won't be allowed to use the washing machine on a Sunday. Though does anyone else feel there was a conspiracy in F1 this year? Like maybe Bernie told McLaren they could stay in the championship so long as they didn't win?

 

[oddball90]

Malcom that is so cynical, but i think you might be quite close to the truth. Why was there an FIA engineer in Mclaren's garage.

 

[Drains]

I don't know that the tax is a big deal for a man like Hamilton. As a great chunk of the tax in the UK is indirect, it's not the high earners that feel the pinch. What's the maximum income tax now? 40-odd percent? Big deal. Wouldn't bother me if I earned what he does.

And there are so many dodges, even if you live in the UK. Nothing to worry about.

I remember when all those rich sods were complaining in the '70s about 95% tax. But it wasn't like it was on all their income, only the bit over, like £100k or so. (which might be galling when you're on a few mill a year I 'spose)
Christ, I wish I was in a position to moan like the rich!

 

[matt1978]

Paying 40% tax is a bit galling to say the least. Its frustrating because you are constantly reminded of how its being wasted.

Like did you see that guy, Mick somebody from Derby, he has something like 14 kids by 2 women. They all live together in council accommodation, none of them work and between them, its estimated that they claim over 40K a year in Benefits!

Its a nice feeling when you see how much Tax and NI you've paid to keep folk like that in shellsuits. NOT!!

 

[TwoSheds]

...
Though does anyone else feel there was a conspiracy in F1 this year? Like maybe Bernie told McLaren they could stay in the championship so long as they didn't win?

Either that or one of the most professional teams in the business suddenly behave like absolute Willie Wonkers... The final straw for me was the pit strategy - I couldn't believe it when they only put 5.9s of fuel in on the 2nd stop...

 

[rtbcomp]

Either that or one of the most professional teams in the business suddenly behave like absolute Willie Wonkers... The final straw for me was the pit strategy - I couldn't believe it when they only put 5.9s of fuel in on the 2nd stop...

Yes - and when they alllowed that tyre to go bald and he got stuck in the pit lane!

 

[TwoSheds]

Yes - and when they alllowed that tyre to go bald and he got stuck in the pit lane!

Well that was beyond belief! I could see it was down to the canvas for TWO LAPS! And with the telemetry they have they MUST have known. The only thing about this whole affair that looks good is the way that Hamilton himself handled it. I would have been spitting blood and would probably have thrown my toys out...

 

[rtbcomp]

..........I would have been spitting blood and would probably have thrown my toys out...

Me too, but I think my bank statement may have calmed me down a bit !

 

[bill_gj]

Lewis H: Complaining about not being able to go to the corner shop for a paper without being besieged by fans - that's what happens when you're famous and have popular adulation as some sort of hero.
He says that, in Switzerland, this doesn't happen. That's because:
1) They're so BORING
2) Most of them are already as rich as him and don't give a monkey's cuss about motor racing.

And not forgetting the possibilities of a decent tax avoidance scheme.

peterd51 - I told my sprogs the same thing.
When I was a kid, off sick from school, and I went shopping with me old Mum, the shops were almost deserted. Kids were at school, dads were at work, teenagers were at work and mums were looking after everybody.
Go to the shopping centres now, any day during the week, and they're full of people wandering about, some of them even spending money. Who's funding them? Where do I sign to get a work-free income so I can spend all day playing in the garage?

 

[rtbcomp]

..........Where do I sign to get a work-free income so I can spend all day playing in the garage?

Local Jobcentre, sign on for Jobseeker's allowance, go for interviews dressed like a slob, turn up late, smell like a drain and don't provide any references. You won't get a job (unless you apply to Dixons) so you can play all day, or better still, work on the fiddle.

 

[Gasman]

I too was gutted to see the various attempts to screw the chances of a hard working and deserving Brit becoming a champion. I had my doubts about the motives of his so called team mate (Quite jealous & vindictive on TV I think)

Regarding leaving the UK. Don't get me started apart from that Al Murry (The pub landlord) speaks a deal of truth in jest

(Yes I am working while on here!!)

 

[Robotstar5]

Local Jobcentre, sign on for Jobseeker's allowance

I found myself unexpectedly out of work after 20 years (paid all my taxes & NI) so I signed on, after 6 weeks found myself a job as they only managed to find 1 position (I did not have the qualifications for!) then I received a cheque for.. wait for it.... 29P!!!

 

[peterd51]

Hi,

I had similar problems a few years ago...not worth my time going down there to sign on!

They guys who get the money are those who 'play the system'.

I saw one family move in and camp in the office for hours on end until they gave them money to clear off. Their kids looked like they'd not had a wash, clothes dirty, mother making jam sandwiches in the office while the kids run around screaming...

the sad thing is they get away with it.

Lethal injections would sort it and we'd not have to kill too many before word spread that the 'good times' are over and they all went out and found jobs!

Regards
Peter

 

[matt1978]

Too right Peter, its time the benefits gravey train ended. It doesn't help the people who really need it (Eg someone who has been working all his life and has a bad accident or gets made redundant and needs some financial help for a couple of months) it just subsidises the scroungers who don't wanna work, who know how to play the system and claim all they can and get away with it.

 

[rtbcomp]

The benefits system could be replaced by a £50 per week payment to everone, the PAYE system being modified to compensate. Thus people in work wouldn't notice any difference but if you get put out of work for some reason you still get your £50. This means you don't have to claim so the DWP can be closed down, all that money saved used to reduce petrol duty and the staff will have the opportunity to discover what it's like not to have a job.

 

[Mr_Caine]

I recall someone telling me they met a person coming into the UK from one of the EU countries, asked why they wanted to come to the UK the answer was because you have a very nice government.

 

[Lippyp]

Back on topic, apparently Max Mosely of the FIA has said that if Lewis Hamilton does as well next year as he did this year he could damage the sport and he'd get letters asking him to slow him down as he did when schumi was so dominant. Personally I think he's more likely to end up with no one wanting to be his team-mate if he continues to act like an arrogant little git. I understand he had a run in with Mark Webber who's pretty mild mannered and he called him some very unprintable things.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsport/formula_one/7070564.stm

 

[classic2cv]

Back on topic, apparently Max of the FIA has said that if Lewis Hamilton does as well next year as he did this year he could damage the sport and he'd get letters asking him to slow him down as he did when schumi was so dominant. Personally I think he's more likely to end up with no one wanting to be his team-mate if he continues to act like an arrogant little git. I understand he had a run in with Mark Webber who's pretty mild mannered and he called him some very unprintable things.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsport/formula_one/7070564.stm

Mmmmm
i wonder what Mr Mosely's dad did for a living???