Led battens issues

[grim_d]

Bought 4 led battens for the new bit of the workshop, wired em in tonight and got this...

Assuming this is faulty units? I've double checked my wiring and seems fine.

I'm not really into clubbing so this is quite anti climatic for me.

 

[mike os]

I would say so

 

[Pigeon_Droppings2]

Faulty units I reckon....it happened to me with some existing fittings but that was because the voltage transformer wasn't designed for led bulbs (I swapped the bulbs to led)....my front room was like a disco.

 

[Screwdriver]

Not connected to or linked to any IR detector? Are these LED specific lighting units or regular fluorescent enclosures with the starter fitted?

 

[brightspark]

don't buy crap cheap fittings then buy a reputable make or take the chance if u don't

 

[grim_d]

Not connected to or linked to any IR detector? Are these LED specific lighting units or regular fluorescent enclosures with the starter fitted?

No IR detection, led specific units.

don't buy crap cheap fittings then buy a reputable make or take the chance if u don't

Is £35 each super cheap? I was trying to avoid properly cheap crap. I wouldn't know good brands of battens if they bit me on the nose. Bought them based on reviews from a lighting supplier, not eBay!

2yr warranty so not an issue really.

 

[armalites]

@grim_d your timing is perfect.

I just replaced 3 6' twin tube units in my workshop with some IP65 Led battens. I shopped around and was going order some online but a local electrical wholesaler had some sensible priced units.

They are Ansell Tornado Pro, the 6' twin units work out at £42, they are 8200lm and have 5 year warranty. OMG it's like daylight in there and instant light. I've been out every night this week just to convince myself I hadn't imagined it. Even during the day they make a difference and I have some clear roof panels.

I've just bought 2 more today based on how good the others are.

 

[grim_d]

@grim_d your timing is perfect.

I just replaced 3 6' twin tube units in my workshop with some IP65 Led battens. I shopped around and was going order some online but a local electrical wholesaler had some sensible priced units.

They are Ansell Tornado Pro, the 6' twin units work out at £42, they are 8200lm and have 5 year warranty. OMG it's like daylight in there and instant light. I've been out every night this week just to convince myself I hadn't imagined it. Even during the day they make a difference and I have some clear roof panels.

I've just bought 2 more today based on how good the others are.

Just ordered 4 @ £43.63 each.

 

[Morrisman]

2 new ones faulty at the same time?

Are thye Screwfix items by any chance? I have half a dozen here and they are super bright. Off to get some more for the front garage soon.

 

[DAPPH]

Just had a thought ( I know :- steady on Dave at your age thinking is dangerous ) When you take the lights off , wire them individually and check all the connections that you can get at then switch it on .. you may find the " fault " has cleared.

 

[grim_d]

2 new ones faulty at the same time?

Are thye Screwfix items by any chance? I have half a dozen here and they are super bright. Off to get some more for the front garage soon.

They aren't. But looking at the eBay offerings it's clear these are the same

Just had a thought ( I know :- steady on Dave at your age thinking is dangerous ) When you take the lights off , wire them individually and check all the connections that you can get at then switch it on .. you may find the " fault " has cleared.

I've triple checked all connections.

One of them has healed itself though before I touched anything..

 

[DAPPH]

They aren't. But looking at the eBay offerings it's clear these are the same



I've triple checked all connections.

One of them has healed itself though before I touched anything..

Sounds to be along the lines I'd thought about .................... most likely a bad soldered joint or high resistnce wiped joint in a connector block ...... makes a reticulated high resistance joint and often acts like a diode.

 

[brightspark]

I only buy decent branded fittings and don't pay a lot for them .I cant afford to supply fittings that go dodgy as it costs me dearly going back to customers houses and replace them for nothing and loose 30 quid an hour plus fuel

 

[armalites]

On the Ansell units they have quick connects and the LED driver/panel is on a connector to so I just connected one unit to caole with a 3 pin plug to test it and was able to then just plug all the other panels in a test them before fitted them.

@grim_d one thing you will need for the Ansell units is drill bit big enough to drill the hole for the gland. It can be either end or on the side and there is a dimple to mark the spot. I used a step drill on the second hghest step which I think it 18mm. Thought I'd mention as it will be sods law that you are all excited and don't a bit the right size.

 

[mtt.tr]

I've had this before it was down to other things in the circuit affecting them cant remember what the conclusion was it was about 6 years ago

 

[grim_d]

Sounds to be along the lines I'd thought about .................... most likely a bad soldered joint or high resistnce wiped joint in a connector block ...... makes a reticulated high resistance joint and often acts like a diode.

All Greek to me but do you mean in the unit itself?

I will disconnect and try it on its own just out of curiosity anyway.

On the Ansell units they have quick connects and the LED driver/panel is on a connector to so I just connected one unit to caole with a 3 pin plug to test it and was able to then just plug all the other panels in a test them before fitted them.

@grim_d one thing you will need for the Ansell units is drill bit big enough to drill the hole for the gland. It can be either end or on the side and there is a dimple to mark the spot. I used a step drill on the second hghest step which I think it 18mm. Thought I'd mention as it will be sods law that you are all excited and don't a bit the right size.

Noted, Ive got hole saws in the common sizes. If it's a standard gland size I think it's 20mm? Got both anyway.

I've had this before it was down to other things in the circuit affecting them cant remember what the conclusion was it was about 6 years ago

They are on their own MCB, nothing else on the circuit. Unless they interfere with themselves...which isn't unheard of for junk.

I only buy decent branded fittings and don't pay a lot for them .I cant afford to supply fittings that go dodgy as it costs me dearly going back to customers houses and replace them for nothing and loose 30 quid an hour plus fuel

I try to but clearly I made a booboo here.

Anyway, new units en-route.

 

[armalites]

@grim_d have your new units arrived yet?

 

[grim_d]

They sure have but I've got a massive resin table on the bench at the minute so they will need to wait until next week to be installed.

They seem excellent quality.