daedalusminos
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I think I paid £2400 for the ultimate pack including delivery.Look how much they are now
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Seeing it’s a kickstarter, there is no guarantee you will even get it. If they don’t raise enough funds to produce them, it’s tough titty mate…That’s how crowdfunding works. Try find enough gullible ..err willing investors in the hope you get enough money in to make said item.
They have raised about £4 million. The product exists. Plenty of success stories with such things being crowdfunded.
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And has anybody actually had one delivered yet?
Well Joshua de Lisle has. I value his opinion. And he wouldn't get involved with them if he thought they were dodgy. Nothing to stop them being built at that price although they are significantly more expensive now.
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Joshua de Lisle would have got one irrespective of what he says to the contrary as he is a well followed you tube influencer and good for marketing purposes. Fred in the shed down the road isn’t…
In other words unviable to make at that price….Funny that, so not a case of established companies fleecing customers by charging £20-£30k for one that actually does what it says on a box, that’s what they cost to produce with quality components
once I see sponsored videos I treat everything the video shows or says with a large pinch of salt.
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You're quite right, there is no guarantee of receiving anything through Kickstarter campaigns. I'm fairly confident backers will receive the items in this case, my main concern, as with most campaigns, is you're essentially buying a prototype.... potentially something with bugs, reliability issues or short life. That's the risk - my two previous Kickstarters delivered and the products were good, just hope this lives up to expectations.
£2500 v £7500. Serious bargain. You can put up with a few bugs for that price
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true, but there's still a lot of money in the retail prices simply for the supply/demand of novel technology, and cornered resource to design/make them. As well as, of course, the quality components/made in western world etc.
Eg, IPG sources still have a massive premium over MAX power sources. Why? Because they're made in western world, so cost more.
Also, they were one of the first to market, they have the brand that people trust, and THEN they're a premium brand with quality components.
Irrespective of the fact that MAX have probably a comparable quality and customer backup. MAX in some cases seem to have better service than IPG.
Having learned a bit about customer experience, I'd probably buy a MAX with my own money, in spite of having worked with 3 different IPG sources. We've had a great time with IPG, can't fault them, but there's no denying that they are very expensive, and they have the same reliability/power loss quirks that all lasers have.
Its a bit like chinese welders. Do I want a parweld, or a Lorch? The lorch costs 3x the price of the parweld. On the face of it, they both do the same thing, and you can certainly make money with them both.
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I had a job interview the other day (didn't get the job) at a place where they had laser welders in a fixed position for lithium battery assembly. I didn't see any PPE around and there are people working near the welders. I had actually noticed this in their promotional videos.
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OK, but I don't have enough context or any detail to know what type of laser welder is being used, what is being done, and how, so I can't really comment.
Jack
