I'll just leave this here if you don't mind

[selectedgrub]

Lest we forget.
RIP

 

[outofthefire]

Lest we forget.
RIP

Forgive my ignorance, but why now, is it a special time of remembrance down there?

 

[selectedgrub]

It's the 25th but traditionally available a week before.

 

[outofthefire]

For anyone else not great on history like me.

Anzac Day

First observed in 1916, Anzac Day - 25 April - commemorates those killed in war and honours returned servicemen and women. The ceremonies held at war memorials around the country, and in places overseas where New Zealanders gather, are rich in tradition and ritual.

nzhistory.govt.nz

 

[MetalMonkey]

Lest we forget.

 

[selectedgrub]

Thank you

From Staffordshire to Dorset most will be canceled this year.

Anzac Services outside of London

Calendar of Anzac Day services 2017 being held outside London.

www.mfat.govt.nz

 

[atomant48]

I have a bottle of Coruba ready for dawn.

 

[Gd485]

Unfortunately the efforts of the allies during WW2 are slowly fading from the minds of the UK population. New Zealand armed forces suffered greatly during some poorly planned operations and do not get the recognition they deserve. ANZAC day is very important to both NZ and Australia but most Brits have no idea about WW2.
Without the support from commonwealth countries and the USA the outcome of the war would not have gone the way it did.
On a recent visit to the D Day beaches I discovered the war graves of a NZ aircrew near Arromaches. The fact that ANZAC personnel took part in the invasion mainly on Juno beach on the 6th June '44 demonstrates that every man was valuable that day.

 

[selectedgrub]

We will not forget them.

 

[minimutly]

Unfortunately the efforts of the allies during WW2 are slowly fading from the minds of the UK population. New Zealand armed forces suffered greatly during some poorly planned operations and do not get the recognition they deserve. ANZAC day is very important to both NZ and Australia but most Brits have no idea about WW2.
Without the support from commonwealth countries and the USA the outcome of the war would not have gone the way it did.
On a recent visit to the D Day beaches I discovered the war graves of a NZ aircrew near Arromaches. The fact that ANZAC personnel took part in the invasion mainly on Juno beach on the 6th June '44 demonstrates that every man was valuable that day.

Ai, that's a sobering walk around no doubt about it, and not just a few NZ names there.
On the different outcome of the 2nd WW, my feeling is that without the US we would have ended up under the Russians, no way they would have stopped at Germany....

 

[frank horton]

SelectectedGrub....
Here in Crete (my house) we have lots of Poppies growing in the garden and one stout fellow growing thru the stones on the drive.....also on the roadside.......
every one is left to it's full natural life and hopefully they will reseed next year.......
I certainly remember......with a heavy heart.....
thanks for the freedoms we have today.........

So true "minimutly".......and the REDS are at it again...!!!!!!!!!

 

[RichardM]

Unfortunately the efforts of the allies during WW2 are slowly fading from the minds of the UK population. New Zealand armed forces suffered greatly during some poorly planned operations and do not get the recognition they deserve. ANZAC day is very important to both NZ and Australia but most Brits have no idea about WW2.
Without the support from commonwealth countries and the USA the outcome of the war would not have gone the way it did.
On a recent visit to the D Day beaches I discovered the war graves of a NZ aircrew near Arromaches. The fact that ANZAC personnel took part in the invasion mainly on Juno beach on the 6th June '44 demonstrates that every man was valuable that day.

and the support during WW1.

 

[JEZGUZ]

I think that for some reason we(the population of the UK) seem to forget the sacrifices of the armed forces of the commonwealth that was. A great pity.

 

[Wedg1e]

I think that for some reason we(the population of the UK) seem to forget the sacrifices of the armed forces of the commonwealth that was. A great pity.

...and they buy Japanese electronics, German cars, go on holiday to Turkey...

 

[northwest]

We will not forget them.

I am afraid that there is now an element over here want to erase history and re-write it, removing statues and even buildings in their quest.

 

[mcostello]

Same here, even removing things that put their races in good light.

 

[Edward Teach]

Lest we forget.
RIP

I did check some dates when this was posted !!

 

[Dcal]

Ai, that's a sobering walk around no doubt about it, and not just a few NZ names there.
On the different outcome of the 2nd WW, my feeling is that without the US we would have ended up under the Russians, no way they would have stopped at Germany....

And without the Russians we would be living under the Nazis. Or maybe not, because Germany and Russia would eventually have gone to war anyway.

I do of course agree, without the Americans we would be under the Russians, but if the Japanese hadn’t attacked Pearl Harbour, would America have joined the war soon enough to make any difference in the end?

Nothing about WW2 is straightforward.
The Russians tied up more than half the Nazi war effort in the Eastern Front and paid a huge price in military and civilians casualties. China came a close second in total casualties.

Stalin's plan (if he had a plan) was to let Hitler overrun the West and pick up the pieces.
Operation Barbarossa was a huge miscalculation and almost certainly changed the course of the war.

 

[Wedg1e]

I think it was largely Churchill badgering Roosevelt that got the Yanks involved. As part of the quid pro quo we gave them all of our highest technology such as the cavity magnetron, I imagine the implication was that the 'other side' would get it otherwise.
Agree, though, that Hitler got ahead of himself in taking on Russia when he did.

 

[northwest]

Same here, even removing things that put their races in good light.

Irrespective of race, I put it down to education, or the lack thereof.