ID these trailer hubs and brakes pls

[Mee]

http://www.peakdynamics.co.uk/news/news-article.aspx?nid=14d11c71-4fe3-4919-bae5-15b5c9c8b476

And based right near you in Manchester.

 

[CompoSimmonite]

When sorting through late father-in-laws shed found a tin full of copper rivets of different sizes - they were for brake shoes. I've kept them as I like classic cars and maybe one day they will get used

 

[Mee]

When sorting through late father-in-laws shed found a tin full of copper rivets of different sizes - they were for brake shoes. I've kept them as I like classic cars and maybe one day they will get used

I have thousands of them from the mining days when we used to reline the drum brakes on conveyor drive units, we had them in boxes of 10,000 rivets, they are 2" long but can be easily cut down.

 

[The_Yellow_Ardvark]

My Al-Ko trailer axil has the same raised parts on my drums.
They are stamped up Al-Ko.
Could they be both used on both axils.

Copper rivets for break shoes are sold soft, as you rivet them they work harden.

 

[Mee]

My Al-Ko trailer axil has the same raised parts on my drums.
They are stamped up Al-Ko.
Could they be both used on both axils.

Copper rivets for break shoes are sold soft, as you rivet them they work harden.

Not sure about Al ko but you could swap but you could swap Peak for Knott drums and vice versa on some sizes as some were metric and others were imperial sizes and only the width was slightly different and when we skimmed the drums at work on nights we had to tale the little lip off on 35mm wide shoes to accommodate the 37mm wide shoes, but they all fitted and worked.
Looking at the three lobes on those pictured they appear to be the Peak brakes as Al ko and Knott had similar drums and both stamped their names into them.

Aware that all copper rivets for brakes are soft, old enough to reline car brakes with them.

 

[W.olly]

getting there

removed the shoes and sized up at 250x40

All i can find are shoes with these silver, i thunk return thing fitted.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Knott-Sty...hash=item1a27ffc27f:m:mLtHSzQilkl4N1_Qm3_Ff1g

 

[gav0994]

getting there

removed the shoes and sized up at 250x40

All i can find are shoes with these silver, i thunk return thing fitted.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Knott-Sty...hash=item1a27ffc27f:m:mLtHSzQilkl4N1_Qm3_Ff1g

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The new shoes have an auto reverse on them. All braked trailers manufactured after 1982 must have them. Your axles are either military or have been made before 1982 or worst case scenario is someone put the wrong shoes in.

 

[W.olly]

The new shoes have an auto reverse on them. All braked trailers manufactured after 1982 must have them. Your axles are either military or have been made before 1982 or worst case scenario is someone put the wrong shoes in.

ah wondered what it was lol.

The axles are from a 5.5ton trailer thats all i know, not sure when it was built.

Will get a few sets then.

cheers all for the help guys mucho grasyares

 

[gav0994]

ah wondered what it was lol.

The axles are from a 5.5ton trailer thats all i know, not sure when it was built.

Will get a few sets then.

cheers all for the help guys mucho grasyares

The auto reverse function only works if you have the correct hitch. They must have a gas damper inside and a solid rod to pull the brake cables to actuate them. if the axles are off a 5.5ton trailer they may well be from a military or agricultural trailer and would have had brakes actuated by hydraulic rams pushing brake rods to expand the shoes inside the drums.

edit: just had another look at the pictures of the rear of the axles. They look like normal cable operated brakes so potentially pre 1982 set up. Should be easy enough to fit the new auto reverse style brakes in them as long as the correct hitch set up is used to actuate them.

 

[W.olly]

The auto reverse function only works if you have the correct hitch. They must have a gas damper inside and a solid rod to pull the brake cables to actuate them. if the axles are off a 5.5ton trailer they may well be from a military or agricultural trailer and would have had brakes actuated by hydraulic rams pushing brake rods to expand the shoes inside the drums.

edit: just had another look at the pictures of the rear of the axles. They look like normal cable operated brakes so potentially pre 1982 set up. Should be easy enough to fit the new auto reverse style brakes in them as long as the correct hitch set up is used to actuate them.

yes they are normal cable operated, the thing is that old it could of been altered over the years.