Hobby weld

  1. Richard Hollis Haynes New Member

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    Hi all
    all you expert welders out there have you used hobby welding gas, is it any good and is it value for money
    at the moment I have a BOC account and thinking of changing to hobby weld mig gas all your suggestion's are welcome
    Richard
     
  2. Tangledfeet

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  3. Ashley Burton

    Ashley Burton Member

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    All depends on how much gas you use & how much your local supplier is charging

    I'm using SGS atm
     
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  4. zzr1200

    zzr1200 Working at 650 ft on open steel work

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    And how far away your supplier is, plus their opening hours....
     
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  5. hotponyshoes Member

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    Never had any problems with the quality of the gas.
    If you use more than 2-3 bottles a year boc is cheaper.
    You can either spend hours working out the best price for your usage or just go with the most convenient/nearest supplier and not worry about the extra £1.22.
     
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  6. James1979 Forum Supporter

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    I use the Ultra size for MIG and the smaller size for TIG. Ultra works out more gas per £ due to the higher pressure / volume or sommat. The guy did say about it but I was distracted by shiny stuff and wasn't really paying attention :) You save about £10 per small cylinder's worth if you buy the big'uns.

    As said above - yeah BOC is cheaper if you use more than a couple of cylinders but I hate them so I stick with Hobbyweld. Plus the guy at Hobbyweld here is a nice old boy who gives me free sh1t so it balances out
     
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  7. frank horton

    frank horton V twins are great but 4"s rule.........

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    def go hobby weld.....
    available country wide....
    I can remember when BOC had the monopoly....40 odd years ago.....
    treated everyone like poo....with stupid delivery prices......
    went to Air Products for a while then just quit.....
     
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  8. Nick DV

    Nick DV "You must unlearn what you have learned."

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    Hi & welcome :waving: If you have a BOC account, would it not be better to use them :dontknow: If you want to keep away from BOC, use SGS, they have a local agent in your area.
     
  9. Munkul

    Munkul Jack of some trades, Master of none

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    Bear in mind that the smaller bottles - the 9 litre in particular - is only 130bar ish. You get a pitifully small amount of gas compared to a 20 litre at 200 bar.

    For the odd bit of MIG welding, a small bottle is probably fine, but if you're planning on doing any TIG work, even practice, the 9l bottle will last less than 2 hours.

    MIG gas flow rate is similar, maybe less, but you don't have the post flow that you'd use with TIG, so it lasts longer. Plus you actually lay your welds a lot faster with MIG.
     
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  10. James1979 Forum Supporter

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    ^^ yup. What I forgot to say is that I’ll be swapping the 10l out for a second big one when funds allow. It doesn’t last long on tig at all.
     
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  11. Matrixx

    Matrixx Member

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    Don't BOC have that special offer on still?
     
  12. skotl

    skotl Forum Supporter

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    Yep - that's what the above are referring to. Used to be "volkszone" plan now it's the hobbyist plan
     
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  13. Jbo2231

    Jbo2231 Forum Supporter

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    I went with adamsgas, 10L bottle filled to 200bar. Havent used it yet but if the gas is what it says it is on the tin then I paid £200 for a 10L 200bar pure argon and 10L 200bar 5%co2/95%argon blend. That includes deposits of I think £55 each bottle, no rent to pay.
     
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  14. tlovatt Member

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    My experience with Adams gas is you need to take a regulator and check the pressure of the bottles, far too many are down considerably on what they should be, otherwise convenient and reasonably priced.
     
  15. metalmelt Member

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    I keep a 20L Hobbyweld as it costs nothing; fortunately I get the full size bottles from work and only pay what the company pays so much cheaper than an account.

    Hobbyweld is a tri mix gas of 93% 5% and 2% oxygen and the oxygen makes the difference.
     
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  16. Jbo2231

    Jbo2231 Forum Supporter

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    I was originally going for hobbyweld but the closest stockists to me that are open on a Saturday were 47 miles away and were making it the most difficult process they could. I doubt my welding will be good enough to notice the difference. When I have practiced a bit I can always return the Adamsgas and move to hobbywelf
     
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  17. Tangledfeet

    Tangledfeet #1 Fan of 3M's VHB tape

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    Must admit that having had a look at the Adams Gas websie their prices do look very good.

    However, only of value if you live in the South East of England!
     
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  18. Cobbler

    Cobbler Codger bodger

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    They have stockists, I get mine changed at Eagle plant. Put your postcode into the website & it will give you a list of stockists.
     
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  19. Tangledfeet

    Tangledfeet #1 Fan of 3M's VHB tape

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    I've just given them a call and they have two distributors in Scotland; I'd have to drive (for whichever!) either halfway across or halfway up Scotland! :laughing:
     
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  20. Cobbler

    Cobbler Codger bodger

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    Well, if you will live in the arctic regions ...........
     
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