Help with set up

  1. Migsvagen Member

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    Hi everyone.
    I have just purchased a Clarke 151te
    with a cheeky vat free code of a kind member of the forum.
    I now need to get set up and want to get a decent size gas bottle (Argon /Co2 )
    I have seen them on a recommended website but don't know how to adapt from
    the baby bottle set up that comes with the Clarke.
    Also stuff like regulator to bottle size are they all same etc.
    and a flowmeter in the set up ?
    I'm going to be doing bodywork eventually so best wire size?
    There will be more questions v soon no doubt lol
    Cheers
     
  2. atomant48

    atomant48 Member

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    Here’s mine on the same welder. Can’t remember what the bottle size is but it’s About the size of a fire extinguisher (which I guess is as long as a piece of string ) from boc. Prices went up recently but about 50 for the year from memory and about 30 for the fill.
    Regulator was from weldequip on here and I’m pretty sure it came with the little adaptor to allow the plastic tube to just push in.

    Looks like I need to give it a clean looking at those pics.
    The other thing I can’t recommend enough is upgrading the earth lead. Again I got one from weldequip and connected a push in plug (dinse?) to the front panel. It makes a huge difference to the weld. It just wires into the existing cable inside the welder itself.
    Hope that helps.

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  3. Migsvagen Member

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    Thanks atomant
    Pics are always handy too.
    I will check out the earth leads for sure.
    Checking out Weldequip now.
     
  4. Wightsparks

    Wightsparks Forum Supporter

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    Welcome!

    Re gas

    https://hobbyweld.co.uk/products/hobbyweld-5-mig-welding-gas/
    pay deposit once for the bottle (about £65) , plus around £40 for a refill/first fill. Money back less £10 on the bottle.

    Other similar options are available
    https://www.sgsgases.co.uk/
    https://www.adamsgas.co.uk/product/hobby-gas-rent-free-5-co2-argon-mix-9l-137bar-new-bottle/

    To compare like with like the volume of gas is cylinder size x pressure (bar) - so Hobby weld is 9L cylinder x 137 bar = 1233L or (conveniently) 137mins of flow at 9L/min which is about average.

    Lidl have a auto helmet coming up this Sunday - get one if you don't have one. https://www.lidl.co.uk/en/p/diy/parkside-automatic-welding-helmet/p28850

    I have always used 0.8 wire but just done my first 1mm bodywork and got on much better with 0.6 - people on here are fans of both. I would go 0.8 and learn on 3mm minimum, try it on thinner and switch if you have to.

    Need a grinder and flap discs to clean off the metal - don't try to weld painted/galvanised metal.
     
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  5. Migsvagen Member

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    Thanks Wrightsparks .
    Much appreciated.
    The equation is ideal for comparing.
    I have plenty of flapper discs etc and a grinder.
    I snagged an auto darkening helmet the other day.
    Quite excited now.
     
  6. Yamhon Member

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    You will likely want an "adapter" like this https://www.amazon.co.uk/MIG-Gas-Hose-Adaptor/dp/B00GCAW2BM

    Screw the brass connection onto the outlet of your regulator, then simply push in the 4mm gas hose from inside your machine into the blue ring. To unplug you push-in the blue ring and pull the 4mm hose out.
     
  7. Parm

    Parm Let The Games Commence

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    Have read of this thread from an experienced and respected member

    @optima21 has done a really good job and provided info on where he’s got stuff.

    It’s a few years old so links may be out of date
     
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  8. Migsvagen Member

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    Hi Parm
    I can't seem to view the link only to his profile.
     
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  9. Migsvagen Member

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    Yahmon thanks for that one.
     
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  10. Parm

    Parm Let The Games Commence

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  11. Migsvagen Member

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    Cheers Parm
    Marvelous, most helpful much appreciated.
     
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  12. Parm

    Parm Let The Games Commence

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    Credit really to @optima21 he did the hard work and produced a good write up :thumbup:
     
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  13. optima21 Forum Supporter

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    and that was my first post on here, :D:D

    the welder is still in my garage, although I havn't done any welding for the last 3 months.
     
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