Hello from Portugal

[mrvf]

Hello to everyone

Im after MIG machine to use in home garage for car restauration and some diy things at home

Can you help me figuring out difference from two machine?

Bester 190c

Telwin 210

https://www.telwin.com/pt/prodotti/index.html?id=816055&lingua=P

Telwin its almost double of value to buy but if its really better i can afford.

Sorry for english

 

[frank horton]

no idea myself but welcome to the forum...I an ex-pat in Crete.......
someone who know's will be along shortly....
your English is no problem....
what sort of car's will you be restoring.....? something old I hope.....I do the same here....plus old motorcycles....

 

[Nomad]

Calling @Gwil - I think he is / was in Portugal.

Check that you can buy welding gas before you decide which welder is best for you.

Welcome and keep us updated, it's always interesting to hear what life is like in other places

 

[mrvf]

I have TIG/mma machine and argon gas and i can buy also co2

Have some friends with lancia delta and other 90s cars that i help. Also on mechanic life mig help in many ways, thats reason i whant mig

 

[fizzy]

Hello to everyone

Im after MIG machine to use in home garage for car restauration and some diy things at home

Can you help me figuring out difference from two machine?

Bester 190c

Telwin 210

https://www.telwin.com/pt/prodotti/index.html?id=816055&lingua=P

Telwin its almost double of value to buy but if its really better i can afford.

Sorry for english

They will both be good machines. Bester are made by Lincoln Electric so a good brand.
CO2 is great for thick metal - say 3mm and above but for cars Argon/CO2 is better.

 

[minimutly]

They will both be good machines. Bester are made by Lincoln Electric so a good brand.
CO2 is great for thick metal - say 3mm and above but for cars Argon/CO2 is better.

Welcome. I welded loads and loads of car bodies with co2, bit spattery maybe, but beautiful deep welds. Don't worry about it.

 

[mrvf]

Thanks guys

 

[Prajna]

Hi, I'm also in Portugal (near Castelo Branco) but I only arc weld at the moment.

 

[KemppiFrog]

I had a Telwin Tig/mma machine that I bought from Metaloferrense near Portimao. Also a Telwin plasma cutter from a company in Portimao, no problems with either. Sold the plasma as I don't have three phase electricity here.
You might look at Stalwerk in Germany, My latest plasma was from them and works well. Like most companies, the basics are from China, but they control the quality and give a seven year guarantee. Delivery is quick.

 

[slim_boy_fat]

 

[KemppiFrog]

OOPs, bit of a correction. Not important, but it was from another outfit near Portimao. Metaloferrence is by Faro. I just looked for the outfit I used, quite big then, but no longer there.
It was 17 yrs ago. Things change.

Probably the most important point about who you buy it off, is how well they treat you if there is a problem.

 

[mrvf]

Thanks

 

[Gwil]

Calling @Gwil - I think he is / was in Portugal.

Check that you can buy welding gas before you decide which welder is best for you.

Welcome and keep us updated, it's always interesting to hear what life is like in other places

Still here! Welding gas is a problem, as in the UK you need a contract, which they won't give to an unregistered business. I do my own stick stuff and I'd farm out anything else. By a roundabout route, which may not be legal, I could probably source gas from Spain- I'm a kilometre from the border.

That's life- and a minor irritation! Only my own opinion of course- but after 20+ years they're aren't enough wild horses to drag me back to Blighty.

 

[fizzy]

CO2 should be available from most places though. Plenty of bars and cafes using it.

 

[Prajna]

Still here! Welding gas is a problem, as in the UK you need a contract, which they won't give to an unregistered business. I do my own stick stuff and I'd farm out anything else. By a roundabout route, which may not be legal, I could probably source gas from Spain- I'm a kilometre from the border.

That's life- and a minor irritation! Only my own opinion of course- but after 20+ years they're aren't enough wild horses to drag me back to Blighty.

Oxygen is very difficult, não é? Or so I heard. All kinds of licenses required since you might cut your way into a bank or something.

 

[mrvf]

Waiting for telwin mig

Buy argon in ebay.de and co2 locally

Thanks for all

 

[KemppiFrog]

CO2 should be available from most places though. Plenty of bars and cafes using it.

For a while I got my Co2 from a local friendly drinks supplier, but they started putting something in it to make the beer more frothy and that didn't agree with welding. So I went to the local engineering gas stockists and rented Argon/Co2. Much better, if a bit more expensive. For Oxygen, I just bought the cylinder and had it recharged. No hassle about licences or being a company, but it was a while back and things have probably changed. The agent was Goncaçalves & Nunes in Portimao.
KF