Health & Safety - USA

[roofman]

Unless you evaluate workers daily then there is no way of knowing someones mental state on any given day..I knew a guy who hanged himself over a bailiffs letter for 2K

 

[Trevorleach]

I have heard....that at the Erie Forge melt shop hall (now torn down)
One person stepped off into the 100 ton furnace.

Saw a video of somehting along the same lines, guy slipped into a vat of molten metal, flash gone.

 

[Parm]

I could see surprise random drug & alcohol testing, but mental health status evaluations every 6 months or so ?

D&A screening all the time, the regulator has mental health as one of its priorities, but they aren’t trained to inspect this……..

 

[premmington]

and there are folk that know the score and do it for a living

Just watched that - chap escaped that with out too many injuries...

 

[Ross365]

I hadn't picked up on the fact the first incident was a suicide. I have to admit that it the days when I was involved in writing risk assessments, I never considered the suicide of an operative as a possibility.

 

[brightspark]

I hadn't picked up on the fact the first incident was a suicide. I have to admit that it the days when I was involved in writing risk assessments, I never considered the suicide of an operative as a possibility.

theres no way to tell what state of mind someones in had a few friends do it god knows why

 

[premmington]

theres no way to tell what state of mind someones in had a few friends do it god knows why

My uncle did it (Mothers Brother) - I found him - when we were kids - he had a troubled life. Dark cloud used to just come over him. He lived with us - a lot of the time. The day he did it - he just got paid from his new job gardening. His life on the outside was coming together...

 

[Erie Fred]

D&A screening all the time, the regulator has mental health as one of its priorities, but they aren’t trained to inspect this……..

...and when the guy off's himself no matter how much you do, the lawyers are all over the employer for not doing enough.

Don't look for it, and don't acknowledge it keeps the lawyers away.

Do you want the company watching you 24/7 ?
How about the qty (8) hours when you on the clock ?

 

[rcx132]

Hi, not specific to the aviation industry but generally employers should do if they want an effective workforce.

Colin

My industry is realising this. A lot of business today is too complex to have throw away employees or even low morale. Hopefully this attitude can spread to all industries and companies.

 

[rcx132]

Unless you evaluate workers daily then there is no way of knowing someones mental state on any given day.

By training managers and doing regular check ins, providing support to employees that need it, and by creating a working environment that gets the best out of people. My previous employer was able to make this work well for them, in an industry with high attrition, they were able to retain staff and because of that they could deliver projects.

 

[dobbslc]

That's what compassionate leave is for.

Not in the construction industry! who pays the mortgage when I'm off having some compassion?
It's work till you drop no more no less, I'm pretty close to the drop as me knees and feet are fooked, then what

 

[northwest]

...and when the guy off's himself no matter how much you do, the lawyers are all over the employer for not doing enough.

As someone who has had someone blow their brains out in front of him, the biggest problem are the Police, they are hard wired to find a culprit if there is a "victim". Some are good about it but the career lot are hell bent on "investigating".

 

[Roger Williams]

Friend of mine had his wife of a few weeks cheat on him and it just about destroyed him, but he got over it. Fast forward a few years and his longtime girlfriend cheated on him. He barricaded himself inside his house and sat on his settee and committed hari - kari , stabbed himself in the guts . Lovely bloke too , what a waste. He must have been in a hell of a state to do that.

 

[selectedgrub]

I didn't read any of this thread as I do not believe in Health or safety
What I do know is that USA and it don't belong in the same title.

 

[Morrisman]

Unless you evaluate workers daily then there is no way of knowing someones mental state on any given day..I knew a guy who hanged himself over a bailiffs letter for 2K

 

[Robotstar5]

Hi, not specific to the aviation industry but generally employers should do if they want an effective workforce.

Having unstable workers throwing themselves into running jet engines should hardly be encouraged.

That's what compassionate leave is for.

Colin

I can't complain about my last company, in 2020 Mrs Robo was in and out of hospital, sometimes for weeks, the first time it happened I went into work as normal and when our supervisor came round I told him what was going on, he just said "get yourself off home and we'll see you when she's out", this happened a few times over the course of that year and as long as I phoned him to let him know he was happy and as a bonus he booked me as normal shifts including shift pay while I was off

I took a few bottles in for him that Christmas as a thank you.

 

[Erie Fred]

I can't complain about my last company, in 2020 Mrs Robo was in and out of hospital, sometimes for weeks, the first time it happened I went into work as normal and when our supervisor came round I told him what was going on, he just said "get yourself off home and we'll see you when she's out", this happened a few times over the course of that year and as long as I phoned him to let him know he was happy and as a bonus he booked me as normal shifts including shift pay while I was off

I took a few bottles in for him that Christmas as a thank you.

Yes, you have a good boss there.
However, I'll wager you won't find that many places, and certainly not in the lower wages/lower skill jobs.

 

[brightspark]

Not in the construction industry! who pays the mortgage when I'm off having some compassion?
It's work till you drop no more no less, I'm pretty close to the drop as me knees and feet are fooked, then what

yep go on sick leave and get about 80 quid sick pay a week the 1st week you get nowt