Has anyone figured out the new system post the event that shall not be named?

[Bki26]

From what I've read I've deduced that for anything over £135 then vat+duty is collected at the border and paid by you so as long as the item you bought has cn22/23 label all you need to do is pay 20% vat and any duty cost which you can work out from the HS code https://www.tariffnumber.com/.

So for a tig welder I guess it would be either 851539 or 85153100.

Is it that simple or have a missed something?

 

[julianf]

Plus processing fees. Always processing fees to pay... Oh, and vat on the processing fees. And vat on the duty. And vat on the delivery cost.

The processing fees are why home industries operating in the business to consumer sector are finding it so hard at present.

 

[hotponyshoes]

And any "clearance" charges set by the carrier.
Around £8 to £24 depending on the carrier.
Unless it gets sent on a pallet where some of them are charging £75+ for the paperwork

 

[Fastdruid]

If you buy something big from say Ebay, banggood, Aliexpress etc then _they_ should be collecting the VAT...but then the duty etc is a lottery still. Certainly the sellers are still putting low values on the goods which means that while you pay the VAT you don't pay the duty (and hence the clearance charges).

Personally I don't "mind" paying the VAT & Duty (although I'd obviously rather not), the clearance charges rather stuck in the craw though and that was before all the recent fun and games. Previously I'd always gone with DHL for that reason, they would just message you to say "we've picked up package <x> you owe £<y>, we'll deliver it on <z>. Please log in and pay online"... you'd then make the payment and it would rock up a few days later.

Compare and contrast with ParcelFarce who hold on to the package for a week while they send you a snail mail letter demanding £8 and the VAT+Duty for the privilege of delaying your parcel.

 

[julianthegypsy]

I think the event that must not be named should be given a less anger and frustration inducing pseudonym.
I suggest Voldemort.
P.S. I've just sent my sixteenth email to a prospective customer in France, explaining why I can't him a stove , much as I'd love to.

 

[Kayos]

Ive got jobs on hold due to parts stuck in Czech Republic, France and another unknown location in Europe.

If anyone figures it out can you let me know please

 

[hotponyshoes]

I think Ebay are doing the same thing,
Under £135 then ebay collect the vat/duty and it arrives as normal.
Over £135 and you pay it on import.

The problem with ebay etc. at the moment is with the sellers that are not set up for it. You end up paying 2 lots of vat.

 

[wristpin]

I was running the UK export department of an international company before we joined and what's happening now was totally predictable. unless you were a politician , that is!!

 

[keithski122]

I know its not europe but I got something from hong kong the other day, no vat or duty.

 

[Bki26]

I know its not europe but I got something from hong kong the other day, no vat or duty.

I believe there's a system setup with certain countries and Hong Kong is one of them however it'll be because the seller put the value under the limit. I previously purchased a £40 hydraulic pump and the cn22 said "bearing £14.99" lol

 

[keithski122]

I know its not europe but I got something from hong kong the other day, no vat or duty.

It was abot £80 worth and all declared correctly.

 

[Bki26]

It was abot £80 worth and all declared correctly.

Must be because of the £135 limit and hong kong trade deal thing then, lucky. I'm wanting to buy a £300 welder so won't be as lucky

 

[CompoSimmonite]

Last year I bought 6 new scooter wheels from India. They were dispatched by seller but then I got a bill from customs in India who acted as agents for the UK government. No extra fees just the pre paid duty and then they were delivered to my door.

 

[Barking Mat]

It's a bloody nightmare, used to take 3 to 4 days, sometimes less, over a fortnight, anything bigger than a small parcel and I'm not bothering currently.

 

[m_c]

Just to clarify a couple things.

There is now no lower limit. You have to pay VAT on commercial goods of any value.

Up to £135 you only pay VAT. Duty has never been paid on goods below that value.
Also up to £135, commercial sellers have to be registered for, and pay UK VAT. If buying via a marketplace i.e. eBay, AliExpress, Etsy, they will most likely process the VAT on behave off the seller.

Over £135, goods can still be sent without Duty/VAT paid.

And to make things more interesting, the same rules come in for anything being sent to EU land on the 1st of July (IIRC maybe June...)

 

[s410man]

So if i buy a pallet of stuff from republic of ireland(1000 of 1 item total value £2500)
The seller charges me £2500 no vat but i will get a vat payment request from hmrc before its delivered to me?

 

[julianf]

So if i buy a pallet of stuff from republic of ireland(1000 of 1 item total value £2500)
The seller charges me £2500 no vat but i will get a vat payment request from hmrc before its delivered to me?

depends how its cleared, but, basically, yes. vat, duty, vat on the processing, vat on the shipping, even vat on the duty.

 

[Turbo]

There's an item on ebay in Scotland, a small item but the seller 'will not post to NI' ! The seller will not answer my messages asking why but I suspect it is because of ykw!