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The return from the welding seems quite good from what i can tell in work.
One example was 3 little patches and the bill was 95 quid. Probably 20 minutes to do.
I dont know if thats wrong or right, depends on which side of the fence you are sitting, i'm just saying not judging. Theres also a fair bit of welding repairs around especially if you are prepared to take on the awkward stuff.
3 mots an hour? Its an hour an MOT for us.
3 bays then its 3 an hour
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Hi,
as we all know, it's not always like that. The place I take my car will take on /any/ job and their welder is sometimes more than a bit annoyed that he can't find decent metal to attach the new parts to. The job's going to take twice as long, other jobs are stacking up and the car owner won't want to pay the extra.
<Kingkenny> I think the council here stopped doing MOTs for the public when they moved to their new depot a couple of years back. I'd already stopped going there as I found someone in a garage, who I could trust, who didn't mind a second free retest when required.
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Peter
as we all know, it's not always like that. The place I take my car will take on /any/ job and their welder is sometimes more than a bit annoyed that he can't find decent metal to attach the new parts to. The job's going to take twice as long, other jobs are stacking up and the car owner won't want to pay the extra.
<Kingkenny> I think the council here stopped doing MOTs for the public when they moved to their new depot a couple of years back. I'd already stopped going there as I found someone in a garage, who I could trust, who didn't mind a second free retest when required.
Regards
Peter
Firstly i did clearly say 'best case scenario'. I know they have an allotted time pert MOT how exactly they work it in the case i gave im not sure but I did also say they have 2 guys. For example while one is say checking emissions the other is checking seat belts wipers etc and so forth. Now 2 guys at 20 min each = 40 min that equates to pretty much 3 cars per hour that's the 45 min time. If you like i will change it to 2.8 cars per hour what ever it works out at. How they work that with the regs with time scales i have no idea but they regularly do that amount of work in that time scale which is more or less = 3 cars per hour for a 2 man team.
There is a big difference between bigger more commercial set ups than the local 2 man band back street garage where they have to get on with it and do the job. In more commercial set ups people can get away with blue murder if there slow and even abysmally bad at there job if the boss likes them. I'm sure many who have worked for bigger companies have seen this first hand. Those. people are carried and lost in the many.
I have used big commercial places in the past but never again as often as you correctly say its 45 min which in many cases turns into an afternoon out. Last time i used a commercial place the booking was before lunch. The car was taken in the roller shutter shut down. I was sent outside (Literally outside on a cold, windy and wet November day with my Dog also). Two hours later my car appears. I'm sure you can see i was happy as hell freezing cold and soaked through.
The car went in as a MOT pass and came out as a fail lol with several things wrong with it that weren't present when it went in. When asked what the f/h had taken them so long , they had others booked in before mine and then they went to lunch.... Nice set up huh? Another example of a mis-managed overcharging bunch of con merchants, such is all to common in the motor trade. ( No offence to the decent ones out there)
Kind regards,
Scott
As Scott, place i had mine MOTed this year had 2 bays and at least 4 inspectors at any one time. There were 2 other cars being juggled while mine was being tested- car in front was on the rollers or emissions when mine was started (chassis # belts lights etc). As the one in front of me went onto the ramp for inspection mine went through brakes and emissions and the one behind was having having the easy bits checked.
Had it down to a finely choregraphed ballet.
I bet it gets interesting when one of the guys is a bit off/hungover and going slow. Entire thing must grind to a halt
Had it down to a finely choregraphed ballet.
I bet it gets interesting when one of the guys is a bit off/hungover and going slow. Entire thing must grind to a halt
That's the one Hotrodder so it can be done as per the 2 at least know locally that do this routine. The place i mainly use these days only does MOT'S and nothing else no repairs nothing. Other than the odd bulb change to get a car through. So they have to be efficient at what they do. Hence my crude calculation on costs to give an indication that's hardly a bad living compared to the many of us.
Hi Steve,
I think it did have a few days left on the ticket, but that's not what i meant. I meant the car was a MOT pass as in mechanically a MOT pass until they got it behind closed doors. Some stupid things like split wiper blades that were not split, One bulb gone that wasn't blown when it went in.
The worst was yet to come get this! One split flexi front brake pipe and the other side badly damaged. I don't need to say anymore on that. The nice fresh grubby hand prints gave away what had gone on behind closed doors. Plus a few other minor things that were not present when it entered there premises. The annoying thing was the pipes were pretty new about 2 months old. I did have one split and replaced both as a precaution.
That was the first and last time time ever i refused to pay someone, with the instruction to sue me if you want your money. The threat to report them was enough for them to hand over the keys fast. Opportunists that mistook me for a total pleb.
On research it became apparent this was common place for this set up to pull stunts like this. Say no more!
Kind regards,
Scott
The car has to be logged onto the system for a minimum of 45mins, and I suspect each tester is only allowed to do 1 MOT at any one time
There is an MOT station near ish to here where I kinda know the guys, he had the test done after about 35mins so we had to twiddle our thumbs for 10min
That aint right, there are strict rules they have to stick to, there has to be a properly designated viewing area where you can sit and watch the tester do your vehicle
As for the Mot timing etc I know what your saying. What the exact answers are i really don't know. There has to be some kind of exceptions i would guess. Its like the place i use i think last MOT was 45 quid i think. With the gear the rent/overheads and other things tigpaul mentioned. I fail to see how they can make a living if they can only do for all intents and purposes 1 MOT an hour. That's go bust syndrome ,if like my place they don't do other repairs which they don't. My understanding is the guys that work as a team on a car do so so they can get the MOTS done and out to earn a living. I know in some regards that contrary to what i said earlier, hence my understanding of why they work as they do. I know roughly the way the system works but never have i waited 45 min for a MOT to be complete.
Yep i know there are rules regards viewing etc. I knew that and let it ride cos i was curious in a way to what the hell set up this place exactly was when the roller shutter went down with me shut outside. I did actually question them with a wry smile at that time. I was fed a load of bull about insurance public liability all that old rubbish. Just a bunch of cowboys trying to generate their own business as I soon found out! The words were' Sir you cant drive your car the brakes have failed' Wanna bet? lol Stop me then, Its got a gearbox and hand brake hasn't it?........ Blank faces.
Still word of mouth is a good tool that can work for you, or against you. They went bust some years ago.
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