H&S Going Mad

[James1979]

My mum got a leather man in her hand bag as far as HK on a flight to Australia. No idea why they were searched again but it was a fuel stop.

The nice lady let her post it home. Couldn’t understand how my mum got it through UK security.....

 

[My Old Landy]

My mum got a leather man in her hand bag as far as HK on a flight to Australia. No idea why they were searched again but it was a fuel stop.

The nice lady let her post it home. Couldn’t understand how my mum got it through UK security.....

The Leatherman has a locking blade iirc? You can't even carry them (without a good reason) in the UK since 2006!

 

[bigegg]

I have a Swiss Army knife (the diddy one) that I always carry. I forgot once on a flight to Hong Kong and it passed through security (2011 so not that recent). When I checked, the rules at the time actually allow a folding blade under 70mm. I wouldn't try it again or even on purpose!!

Never mention to the security guard on the way into a court building that ceramic knives don't show up on metal detectors.



<Edit: I have a suspicion that UK sourced ones have metal powder in the resin handles: I've never checked, but it's the sort of sneaky thing *I* would do>

 

[James1979]

Never mention to the security guard on the way into a court building that ceramic knives don't show up on metal detectors.



<Edit: I have a suspicion that UK sourced ones have metal powder in the resin handles: I've never checked, but it's the sort of sneaky thing *I* would do>

It’s a legal requirement here and in the USA that they have to have a ferrous part in them. @northwest would know I’m sure.

The leather man has locking blades, depending on model. Mine has. It’s the third I’ve owned since I was 18. I’ve run out of f’ks to give I’m afraid when it comes to that. It’s a tool of my trade if anyone asks...

 

[Mick Annick]

Had that before, went to a depot to collect. Sign where you pull up in 3 foot high writing... Do not get out of your vehicle on this yard under any circumstances.
Go in to the office and they won’t even talk to you unless you have hi viz, boots, helmet and glasses. ..... on, in the office

We used to deliver trailers to a firm in the electricity distribution grid business, wanted risk assessments and method statements doing before our drivers were allowed on site, I pointed out this might be a bit tricky if they didn’t let me on site first... We ended up doing them based on common sense and looking at the sites on google maps

 

[Mick Annick]

I have a Swiss Army knife (the diddy one) that I always carry. I forgot once on a flight to Hong Kong and it passed through security (2011 so not that recent). When I checked, the rules at the time actually allow a folding blade under 70mm. I wouldn't try it again or even on purpose!!

I flew from London to Edinburgh many years ago with my boss for a meeting, all fine, but on the way back security asked me to open my briefcase; after a brief look they pulled my Opinel penknife out of one of the pockets - ‘ what’s this for?’ He asks, ‘sharpening my pencil’ says me (there were a few in there). He then spies my pencil case and opens it, to find a second Opinel, ‘OK, what’s this one for then?’ I just shrugged my shoulders, couldn’t answer that one, but he let me go and keep my knives!

 

[Gritineye]

My next door neighbour had the same attitude to hard hats (he was a plumber, so didn't see the need). He spent a month in a coma when someone dropped a brick on his head on a building site as he walked out of the site office.

But he was on a site big enough to have a site office so was working amongst others, always a risky situation. Something I never did since all this stuff started.

 

[redlig]

Wasn't it Chickin Lickin that had the sky fall on it's head ? Is nowhere safe? I always have a good laugh when I see the mayor of somewhere planting a tree in the middle of a field wearing a hard hat. One of my bosses bought me a hard hat and a pair of steel toe cap shoes . I was working in O.A.P houses at the time . I asked her how I was any safer and got her to put the hat on at which point I tipped it off of her head with a gentle tap. I gave the shoes to a fellow workmate and carried on wearing sandals just as I had been for the previous 50+ years and still do today. Still got 10 toes ! But very good reactions,

 

[bricol]

Reading some of this, you can start to really understand why H&S had to be brought in and enforced!

And why catch-all rules have to be brought in in some situations/some sites. I get exasperated at our H&S dept, but some of the stuff mentioned here would get you escorted politely to the other side of our gate, your name on a list, your company sent letters, and me a bollocking for letting you on in the first place!

 

[eLuSiVeMiTe]

A few years back we built a mobile darkroom for a large offshore company, something to do with oceans and engineering
We subbed the lining to a contract joiner who had the most impressive facial scar... it started at his forehead, cut his eyebrow in two, ran down his cheek, split both lips and put a cleft in his chin. I had to ask...
Years before, he'd been chasing out a wall using, you guessed, a 9-inch grinder. Gloves, face shield, all the kit.
The disc fractured out of the hub, bounced off the wall and went straight through his face shield. Like a yo-yo it then ran, still spinning, down his face, shredded his clothes (he had a matching chest scar) and exploded at his feet.
He said there was actually a burn mark down his eyeball and the disc damaged two of his teeth.
You really don't want to get any closer than that...

I've never seen a diamond disk go.

Can't remember the last time I used an abrasive disk for stone

4" is usually plenty for chasing anyway

 

[Bornfree]

Reading this iam so glad I work on my own. And can do what I want with any tool I want. I use a 9" grinder most days

 

[Pete.]

I've never seen a diamond disk go.

Can't remember the last time I used an abrasive disk for stone

4" is usually plenty for stone anyway

When I started in the game chasing was done with stone cutting carbon blades. Diamond blades don't break. I've never heard of it in 30+ years and I know a guy who was using a 1 metre blade in a 65hp roadsaw when it got reversed over by an artic bending the blade 90 degrees.

Come to think of it when we were cutting out the road deck in a tunnel and got a blade stuck we had to cut it in half with a 9" grinder so they could open the road. Took about 40 minutes to cut that bugger through. £1200 down the pan and that was 22 yrs ago.

 

[Nomad]

I have a Swiss Army knife (the diddy one) that I always carry. I forgot once on a flight to Hong Kong and it passed through security (2011 so not that recent). When I checked, the rules at the time actually allow a folding blade under 70mm. I wouldn't try it again or even on purpose!!

I went through airport security last year - emptied my pockets of keyring and removed my belt with big metal buckle etc so I didn't set any alarms off - went through the metal detectors with no problems. I was picking up my rucksack that had gone though the conveyor x-ray machine when security came over and and to ask why they had heard metal in my pockets.
I now know a pocketful of pub change / shrapnel does not set of alarms at modern airport high security metal detector gates. Oops. It's not reassuring.

 

[eLuSiVeMiTe]

I've never seen a diamond disk go.

Can't remember the last time I used an abrasive disk for stone

4" is usually plenty for chasing anyway

To add to this.

I've never broken a grinder disk of any kind other than a Dremel.


Have to let the tool find its own balance and support it. Always makes me cringe when I see someone fighting against a grinder.

No wonder they snag

 

[Pete.]

You break plenty in concrete demolition.

 

[eLuSiVeMiTe]

You break plenty in concrete demolition.

To be expected In that game.

You get some interesting projects.

 

[Wedg1e]

I flew from London to Edinburgh many years ago with my boss for a meeting, all fine, but on the way back security asked me to open my briefcase; after a brief look they pulled my Opinel penknife out of one of the pockets - ‘ what’s this for?’ He asks, ‘sharpening my pencil’ says me (there were a few in there). He then spies my pencil case and opens it, to find a second Opinel, ‘OK, what’s this one for then?’ I just shrugged my shoulders, couldn’t answer that one, but he let me go and keep my knives!

When I was at junior school in the early 70s, nobody wrote with a pen apart from the teachers, it was always pencils.
If you stuck your hand up to tell our class teacher that your pencil needed sharpening, he would get you out to the front, open his desk drawer, hand you a Stanley knife and point at the bin. Nobody ever got slashed or stabbed, the drawer wasn't locked and the knife never got stolen.
And the teachers would sometimes spark up a fag while you worked
Mind you they would also drag you out for a good hiding in front of the class, so it wasn't all a bed of roses.

 

[Wedg1e]

Did ye like that?

[/Dibnah]

 

[northwest]

We had something like 10,000m2 of metal decking to fix using Hilti DX cartridges, shot firing into steel - it makes a fair old bang!

Was fitting a courier safe to the wall/floor of the Peoples Westchester County Savings Bank in Yonkers NY on a Friday afternoon with a good friend of mine. We wanted to be away so I suggested the Hilti gun for the floor. We tried to tell them it was "like a gun" but nobody would listen. That first shot went off..........

Makes me chuckle to this day.

 

[Bornfree]

Ah... managing risk?

We had something like 10,000m2 of metal decking to fix using Hilti DX cartridges, shot firing into steel - it makes a fair old bang!

Imagine doing that on a busy airport (remember them?) and we had a wealth of signage out to advise those using a nearby pedestrian route that the ‘bangs’ were normal and not some incident - part of the clearance process involved not only the client team but also ensuring the Police were happy with our storage and methods!

I remember the first time I ever used a Hilti. I was fitting pipe brackets on a concrete block wall. Without reading the instructions I selected the black cartridge (thinking concrete blocks are hard) put the threaded stud in and pulled the trigger. Never found the stud and it took out most of the back of the 9" hollow block.