Formula 1

[Dilkris]

It is one of those circuits where tyre stop strategy is the most important thing since without David Coulthard, hardly anyone actually overtakes these days.

All F1 teams have a room full of specialists working out exactly how a given strategy will work. They work it out real time all the time non stop throughout the entire race monitoring every single car. It is quite a technical challenge which relies on a driver getting in/out at a predictable rate and of course a well drilled pit crew. Red Bull and McLaren got their strategies absolutely bang on.

Mercedes got theirs wrong and despite my newfound dislike for LH, he can't be blamed for not knowing exactly what the gap might be 20 odd seconds behind him.

I'm sorry - but aren't we missing something here - that's not really racing is it...??? With the "race" seemingly now controlled by software algorithms..... I don't understand why the cars are necessary.

 

[redlig]

I'm sorry - but aren't we missing something here - that's not really racing is it...??? With the "race" seemingly now controlled by software algorithms..... I don't understand why the cars are necessary. In the late 50's a well known manx norton tuner got fed up with his riders chucking his bikes up the road and suggested that it would be better all round to just put the engines on a dyno and give the cup tp the one that gave the most HP. It didn't catch on!

 

[PhillipM]

F1 has never been about going flat out, it's always be to work out strategically how slow you can go and still win.

 

[Bullet2012]

Wonder how many red flag stops will happen today ? First one on lap three is my prediction, then another around lap 20.

 

[Dilkris]

No tire changes and no refueling - no pit stops for anything start to finish - that would be a "race"

 

[Screwdriver]

No tire changes and no refueling - no pit stops for anything start to finish - that would be a "race"

Problem is there is hardly any actual overtaking. Cars are too big, too wide, too aerodynamic and too close in performance.

The result of the race would be settled during qualifying, much as it is now...

 

[redlig]

F1 has never been about going flat out, it's always be to work out strategically how slow you can go and still win.

The Great Jim Redman was quoted in the 60's that the idea was to win at the slowest possible speed .

 

[Danez]

welp that was annoying

was really looking forward to the final shootout in Q3

 

[redlig]

How about scrapping the actual racing and replace it with a series of 1 lap sprints and keep on repeating them until there is only 1 car left . Sort of "devil take the hindmost with debris. " That would satiate the blood lust of the spectators.

 

[minimutly]

Problem is there is hardly any actual overtaking. Cars are too big, too wide, too aerodynamic and too close in performance.

The result of the race would be settled during qualifying, much as it is now...

For once I 100% agree with you @Screwdriver . They have top people working out how to achieve overtaking, and real racing - the answer is to remove the wings front and back, job done.

 

[Danez]

For once I 100% agree with you @Screwdriver . They have top people working out how to achieve overtaking, and real racing - the answer is to remove the wings front and back, job done.

hopefully next years regs which include less dirty air will improve overtaking

if merc still dominate next year I might have to start watching BTCC or moto GP...

 

[Greeves246]

During a Formula 1 race Peter Collins handed his car over to Fangio allowing Fangio to win the World Championship. Even if it was allowed today I don't see any current drivers being so altruistic ( esp Hamilton) .

 

[Gragson]

if merc still dominate next year I might have to start watching BTCC or moto GP...

No reason you shouldn't be watching moto GP as well as.
All 3 classes are competitive and exciting
Warning - includes overtaking !

 

[redlig]

For once I 100% agree with you @Screwdriver . They have top people working out how to achieve overtaking, and real racing - the answer is to remove the wings front and back, job done.

And skinny tyres , cotton balaclava helmets , goggles, drum brakes and 1000hp motors .That would sort the men from the boys.

 

[redlig]

No reason you shouldn't be watching moto GP as well as.
All 3 classes are competitive and exciting
Warning - includes overtaking !

OVERTAKING is that where someone has the audacity to actually pass another driver ? That will never catch on in F1 just think how that might effect the mental well being and self belief of the overtooken . And think of the fans reaction to their favourite being passed it would start a football type riot with bottles and seat being thrown about. Hmmm now that seems more fun. No it will never catch on in F1.

 

[ukracer]

I'm sorry - but aren't we missing something here - that's not really racing is it...??? With the "race" seemingly now controlled by software algorithms..... I don't understand why the cars are necessary.

Because they are not always correct....

 

[Morrisman]

Problem is there is hardly any actual overtaking. Cars are too big, too wide, too aerodynamic and too close in performance.

The result of the race would be settled during qualifying, much as it is now...

Watching that 3 season series about F1 not long ago, some cars were breezing by others, with complaints by some drivers that they hadn’t got the same power as other cars etc. I thought formula one restricted the power down to certain level, in some way, and getting the power wasn’t the issue?

There was plenty of overtaking going on in that series, and some seriously sketchy manoeuvres too. Crashing out when you are at/near the front has to be a real party poopers trick too.

Two drivers on the same team connecting, and both wiping out, a real career wrecker, Mercedes I think.

 

[Bobupndown]

Gotta feel for Max today.

 

[Danez]

welp that was unexpected

so happy the championship is still just as close

 

[ukracer]

Gotta feel for Max today.

He got real lucky today..