Fleabay - Possible scam?

[jugs]

The thing is if eBay charged a reasonable fee for the reserve & not the huge one they currently do then this problem would go away all on its own.

Justme

Simple solution. bet they wont though

 

[jugs]

Well done Mick I see you got it, I hope you find it as good value as I have

 

[Damaged]

Well I "won" the auction, final price £222 + p&p.

Just before the auction ended another bid was placed by "Bidder 3"

Still don't know if I've been ripped off or not, slightly reasured by the fact that John has bought one of these and seems to be happy with it (Cheers Jugs)

If the plasma shows even the slightest signs of being U/S a few friends and I will be on the first flight to Germany (True brits!)

I may be wrong but please beware of placing high automatic bids with this seller!

Mick.

 

[fingers99]

Good luck with it -- reports are they're good with repairs, hopeless with English.

£222 seems a pretty good deal for a plasma................

 

[Luke]

Hang on a minute, so other bidders bid in an auction! oh my god! who'd have thought!?

 

[peterd51]

Hi,

I think the complaint is that the 'sellers' are bidding on their own kit to push up the final selling price.

It looks odd that almost all of their items sell for just over £200...

same as Berlan (another, possibly the same, German company).

Regards
Peter

 

[Luke]

With the new system, you can't prove which bidder is which.

You're buying a brand new boxed product from a commercial outfit for a vastly discounted price - is it really a surprise that they expect a reasonably similar price for each?

Their actions might not seem fair, but they are logical. I doubt anyone would make a fuss if they'd just set the starting bid at £200 or whatever.

Hey, if you're not happy with the risk, pay the full price elsewhere?

 

[bill_gj]

This seems to be happening with a lot of the "business" sellers, I think. Jacking up the price when they start with a "£0.99 start", or similar and putting a "Buy it now" of some other much higher sum.

I was recently bidding on a windscreen for a certain vehicle from a breakers yard. 99p start £99.99 "buy it now" and felt some disquiet with the way bidding went - I ducked out at about £41 and it 'sold' for about £42 - only me and the 'other bidder'.
A week later, the same offer was on ebay, same prices, same picture, same seller.
Could have been genuine, but I put the seller on my sh#t list anyway.
Their loss.

 

[matt1978]

With the new system, you can't prove which bidder is which.

You're buying a brand new boxed product from a commercial outfit for a vastly discounted price - is it really a surprise that they expect a reasonably similar price for each?

Their actions might not seem fair, but they are logical. I doubt anyone would make a fuss if they'd just set the starting bid at £200 or whatever.

Hey, if you're not happy with the risk, pay the full price elsewhere?

Its not a discounted price.

I am not arguing weather £200-£250 for that item is not good value for money, but that is the worth of that product, not more.

 

[bill_gj]

Bye the bye, the windscreen that I mentioned that I think I was being stiffed for is on sale again !
Same seller, same picture, same description, except now the 'buy-it-now' is £45 instead of £99.99. Just about what I thought it was worth in the first place.

The seller has plenty of positive feedback. I hope it's just my bitter and suspicious mind.

 

[Damaged]

The seller has plenty of positive feedback. I hope it's just my bitter and suspicious mind.

Me too!

Luke, I wasn't complaining about other people bidding or indeed the final price, I was trying to warn other members of this forum that there MAY be something going on with a company that sells cheap Chinese plasma cutters, something that I'm sure you will agree members of this forum may be interested in buying for themselves.

As you have said I wouldn't have an issue if the starting price was £200, it's just that something seems odd and potential customers have a right to know.

 

[malcolm]

Seems to me this company (if it does this) is doing it with the intention of avoiding eBay fees rather than to con customers.

That seems fair game to me as a way to get the bids to a fair price or to end the auction and try again. Any lower and the seller probably would not be able to continue selling on eBay and would become less useful to us.
eBay seem to have a monopoly just at the moment and are are taking advantage of this to fill their pockets. The game for sellers is to avoid filling their pockets so prices can be kept low and reporting them to eBay in this case is a spoilsport effort.

My thought is bid the maximum you are prepared to pay and don't go higher. If you buy something for what you are happy to pay then you should be happy.

 

[Damaged]

Seems to me this company (if it does this) is doing it with the intention of avoiding eBay fees rather than to con customers.

That seems fair game to me as a way to get the bids to a fair price or to end the auction and try again. Any lower and the seller probably would not be able to continue selling on eBay and would become less useful to us.
eBay seem to have a monopoly just at the moment and are are taking advantage of this to fill their pockets. The game for sellers is to avoid filling their pockets so prices can be kept low and reporting them to eBay in this case is a spoilsport effort.

My thought is bid the maximum you are prepared to pay and don't go higher. If you buy something for what you are happy to pay then you should be happy.

Malcolm,

I've only ever sold a bike, exhaust cans and a few bits and pieces so haven't looked at it from a sellers point of view, can you explain what you mean please?

Cheers,

Mick.

 

[snowcat]

This is common practice at real life auctions, Iv been to plenty where Friends of the seller or an invisible man, has been clearly running the bids, If theres a reserve then its often a way of getting a hook to get the biding somewhere near........ Its nothing new and in reality has probably been happening for century's just in a non electronic era....

 

[scarecrow]

This is common practice at real life auctions, Iv been to plenty where Friends of the seller or an invisible man, has been clearly running the bids, If theres a reserve then its often a way of getting a hook to get the biding somewhere near........ Its nothing new and in reality has probably been happening for century's just in a non electronic era....

all that and a lot more funny stuff

 

[wallopadonkey]

we went to an auction in chester's surrounding area myself and 3 mates
2 sat at the back and 1 at the front i was 3watching out for a saxo (dont ask)

anyway i follow the car in and it gets no interest at £350 so i being cheeky say 50 quid he starts at 50 quid and i watch hoping for a cheapy car
it looks like we get a flurry of bids and its up to £550 in about 1minute 20 secs he deffo pointed at my mate at the back twice and he looks a bit nervous so i go to ask him what the fcuk he playing at, he did have chips and curry in his hand mind
he hadn't bid
whan i took it up with the office i was asked to leave!!
bouncing the bids off walls i believe they call it!

another day i went to sell my estima at another auction same district we watch as it goes through and it is bid up to £1650
gutted i go to ring the mrs to tell her the bad news we accept the bid at the office to be told it didn't receive any bids at all!!!
fcuk says i and the fact that i was in the room watching the bids fly around

i was asked to leave lol

i said not without my car and off i trundled.

 

[fingers99]

Yeah. Bidding off the wall is very common. Strange that you should have been on both ends of it, though!

What's wrong with Saxos, though? (And what's an Estima? -- if it's a people carrier, they tend to sell well to Poles and Czechs in Liverpool. Run the family home for Christmas, come back filled with goodies or building workers.)

 

[wallopadonkey]

its the jap version of the toyota previa fully loaded with an lpg conversion lol
got 2k for it locally lol

one auction was qferry and the other was prees lol
about 3 weeks apart

 

[wallopadonkey]

i bought it from japan and brought it in through freeport lol always amazes me the bloody big pile of scrap there dunno what they do with it though
i could probably blow enough holes into it to wipe it out lol
let me at it

dave

 

[TurboShed]

i bought it from japan and brought it in through freeport lol always amazes me the bloody big pile of scrap there dunno what they do with it though
i could probably blow enough holes into it to wipe it out lol
let me at it

dave

I used to take long walks up there (I was on a diet LOL), and watch the rusty scrap mountain, there'd be 2 heavy plant grabbers (wrong terminology maybe) slinging the scrap from the bottom of the mountain to a bit higher up, even on a Sunday there'd be these 2 guys working on the mountain, slinging the rusty scrap about. I used to wonder how many ships it must take to make a dent in that lot! Anyway, I lost 5 stone so don't have any reason to walk that far anymore