Fire guards

[Migmac]

We have one in the loft. It had to meet certain regs as my wife was child minding at the time. Can’t get to it just now but if you want pictures i can do them this evening

 

[James1979]

We have one in the loft. It had to meet certain regs as my wife was child minding at the time. Can’t get to it just now but if you want pictures i can do them this evening

Thank you. Don’t go to any bother. I’ll have a look at that reg first and see if
There’s measurements on it. Thanks though.

There is a get out by selling it as a piece of art / room screen for him to do with as he wants but I don’t want to go there.

As there’s a chance I’ll do more than one I want it right.

 

[tom2207]

be a good thing to make out of alumin , if it needs moved about ,, maybe the light weight would make the selling point ,, again , just thinking out loud

 

[James1979]

be a good thing to make out of alumin , if it needs moved about ,, maybe the light weight would make the selling point ,, again , just thinking out loud

Good point.

He wants it black so it can be made out of anything under the powder coat

 

[gaz1]

Turns out there is a reg:

“EN1930:2011. Published by the European Committee of Standardisation (CEN), it specifies the safety requirements and testing methods for child safety barriers for indoor use, which are designed to be fitted across openings to limit access, and to prevent children up to the age of 24 months from passing through”

Whoda thunkit!

actually no theres not and i will explain

that guidance is only for gates or fences for a barrier not a fireguard or an arestor

whilst an arrestor will have small grid like protection to stop spitting debris

however in respect of child protection it is recommended 65mm apart

There are no specific regulations on what distance the fire guard or screen should be away from the heat source, however it is suggested between 40-70cm

 

[armalites]

My concern with metal guards is that there is potential for them to get very hot. Now I fully appreciate they will not be as hot as the wood burner but I think having the guard can lull people into a false sense of security.

 

[James1979]

My concern with metal guards is that there is potential for them to get very hot. Now I fully appreciate they will not be as hot as the wood burner but I think having the guard can lull people into a false sense of security.

There is that.

My parents were of the “well you won’t do it again….” Mindset and it seemed to work out alright

I suppose it depends on the distance from stove to fence etc.

 

[Olderisbetter]

A picture of the mother in law above the fire place used to keep kids and animals away at my mates house
Les Dawson circa 1970

 

[James1979]

As that’s the right reg, I thought I’d download it.

£285. Maybe not!

I will see what the library can do in the morning

 

[Parm]

BS8423 and BS3248. Are the two relevant standards, a quickly google suggests they provide performance parameters rather than setting out construction details

 

[dan.taylor.1]

My concern with metal guards is that there is potential for them to get very hot. Now I fully appreciate they will not be as hot as the wood burner but I think having the guard can lull people into a false sense of security.

While I agree, kine is on the edge of the hearth, which is the required 400mm from the fire and its hot but not burning hot with the 5kw fire going full chat.

 

[nickk]

I’ve made several of both types,will try and dig out old 35mm photos,there’s some merit in using steel,the weight,for stability,if your using aluminium it will more security to keep kids from pulling it onto themselves.

 

[Eric the chicken]

They’re about £30.00 on the internet very similar to Tom’s picture. In my experience with one they don’t get excessively hot, or even warm with a wood burner at about 18 inches distance.

 

[500e]

Granny's both had ranges if you touched them it Hurt !! learnt very quickly not to touch them.
Think one had a guard in sitting room a bit like Toms but Victorian design anchored with pins that dropped into an eye, it was more to stop the cat scorching than me burning

 

[Tupers]

Here’s one I made last year. The frame is 6mm round bar with 25mm weld mesh folded and welded in. There’s a 60x2mm base with holes to screw it directly to the floor and 2 ears on each side at the back to anchor it to the chimney breast.

 

[Migmac]

It’s a panel affair, makes it easy to fit round any fire. Has brackets that secure it to the wall, they can be left on the wall and the fire guard removed whilst not needed. One of the panels is a gate, handy for getting to the fire. Locked with the same lock as a stair gate. Pictures are rubbish but you’ll get the gist of it. It’s alluminium but I lost two of the bars and replace them with steel hydraulic pipe

 

[James1979]

It’s a panel affair, makes it easy to fit round any fire. Has brackets that secure it to the wall, they can be left on the wall and the fire guard removed whilst not needed. One of the panels is a gate, handy for getting to the fire. Locked with the same lock as a stair gate. Pictures are rubbish but you’ll get the gist of it. It’s alluminium but I lost two of the bars and replace them with steel hydraulic pipe

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Thank you. I’ll draw something up and see how I get on. Oddly he wants 720 minimum height which is about the same as yours

 

[Migmac]

Thank you. I’ll draw something up and see how I get on. Oddly he wants 720 minimum height which is about the same as yours

I think when we looked at getting a guard the minimum height was 70cm. This might just have been a “suggestion “ by the lady doing the checks.

 

[slim_boy_fat]

Here’s one I made last year.

Bolt that to the wall opposite the fire and corral the kids in it, job jobbed.

 

[Tupers]

I’ll let you broach that one with Ofsted.