Family Tree

[DanielW]

Anyone achieving their own?

On Ancestry site,If you have the name of your BIL do you put his wifes married name or her maiden name?

60 relies and ongoing and I ain't even started to look at any records yet,sure is a time consuming thing to do but it kills a few hours.

 

[rtbcomp]

Traditionally if you're researching a female you use her maiden name for the period before she was married, her married name afterwards. These days a lot of women still like to be known by their maiden name after marriage or divorce so it's best to search for both.

 

[DanielW]

Ok bear with me rtb,I started with me pa and me ma,I put me ma's maiden name and me pa's name,should I continue like that with the my 3 sisters maiden names against their husbands?

I have built up the tree before searching the records as the site allows you to do that before shelling out the subscription.

I'm working from today and going backwards in time which is the norm because we mostly know todays families and their siblings and so on.

 

[rtbcomp]

It depends. If your searching census records before they were married use their maiden names.
If you're looking for marriage records use the female's maiden name and her spouse's surname.
If you're looking for death records use a female's (latest) married name if she married, her maiden name if she was a spinster.
If you're looking for birth records use her maiden name, her father's surname and her mother's married name.

 

[DanielW]

Ah yes its making sense now the penny's dropped,it doesn't really matter but its best to put her maiden name because people will know she's married to MrX and also know what her maiden name is.

Cheers for that,lets see if there's any riff raff in the family or I'm a heir to some estate,unlikely but you never know.

I know I get my engineering knowledge from me Pa and my Artistic side from me Ma but I'd like to know what me Pa's dad did for a living,I know he was a bleedin hoarder thats for sure,put steptoe to shame.

 

[rtbcomp]

You've GOT to use her maiden name before she married. The Ancestry database is just a copy of public records, it doesn't add data retrospectively once someone marries,

I use Brother's Keeper for my family records and I always use females' maiden names, it makes them easier to trace back.

 

[Robotstar5]

If you're serious about researching family history, have a look at one of the software packages available, I use Family Tree Maker which organises everything, allows you to add pictures, certificates etc., you can even upload your tree for other family members to view.

I can recommend S&N Genealogy supplies, I've used them a few times.

 

[reedx]

Also have a look on freebmd.org.uk. I find it more useful than ancestry for initial research.

Colin

 

[Dave Sherwood]

A good family tree program should let you enter both the maiden name and Married name plus if remarried the new name. It should also let you search by any format ie: maiden name / married name etc and when found show all single and married names. The best I have used is Family tree maker and I have tried a few, it also lets you import from other programs.

 

[DanielW]

Chaps I have not done any searching as of yet,I don't think this would be a problem?

Anyway for those who have not registered on Ancestry? it gives you the option to build your tree for nowt as you put in the people you already know and the place of birth/death and as much detail into their build,ancestry comes up with automatic finds on its website as hints,those hints contain the persons with identicle name but might be different areas to which you can eliminate those you think its not the right person.

As I stated at the moment I'm just building up my tree based on who's alive today and who isn't,its gone as far as my Pa&Ma and their siblings and upto now I've had a few hints as I'm poking in the details for each person.
I have not paid a subscription as of yet so cannot browse the searched files.

I'm starting to like this very much.

 

[DanielW]

Also have a look on freebmd.org.uk. I find it more useful than ancestry for initial research.

Colin

Tried that site before ancestry,couldn't find me Pa/Ma/Sisters/Brothers....useless.

 

[reedx]

Tried that site before ancestry,couldn't find me Pa/Ma/Sisters/Brothers....useless.

That's a surprise, I've found it to be superb. Though saying that there isn't too much data at the moment after about 1971.

Colin

 

[dunk]

one piece of advise i will give you is check all info you find with the original document, most name databases are usually transcribed , ie census, bmd, wills, etc and mistakes are made even though its checked by several people, most original census pages you can view on census sites as also some marriage documents as well, those you car`nt you will have to go to where they are held, if possible back up what you found with two pieces of support or more, ie, census age date, get birth cert and baptism entry if baptised,
On my dads side the 3rd grt grandfather i found he had 13kids with his last wife but 6 of the kids birth certs had the surname spelt wrong through proberly the way they spoke back then and not being able to write or read they would not see the mistake on documents that the clerk made, (ie with a t instead of th or a p instead of a t,) the censuses for years 1861 & 1871 said he was married to the lass but in fact he did`nt get married to her till 1874,
its a great hobby/pastime as is very very interesting with what comes up in news papers from years back, depending on how far back you plan to go could take years and costs ££`s in certificates and travel or subs but well worth it in my opinion, after 20+ years i`m still looking and have managed to get back to late 1500`s on dad`s side, not so good thou on mums side.

 

[DanielW]

That's a surprise, I've found it to be superb. Though saying that there isn't too much data at the moment after about 1971.

Colin

Their files are limited and jumbled up and when that occurs you have to search the whole numbered column why don't they use the damn alphabet We Wh Wi silly using numbers.

 

[DanielW]

Remember when I said I knew a girl that liked big cranes,well she was Russian and apparently her Grandfather and Grandmother settled in the UK and had two children,sadly the girl could not backtrack her tree because the rsole that took down their details when they disembarked could not understand russian and put down false names or names he thought what was presented to him.
Her grandparents never had no official documents of their own family and the two kids where too young to understand,so basically she could only go as far as her own parents as her grandparents where long dead when she grew up in the uk..

Bu**er when that happens.

 

[DanielW]

Dunk,as far as census is concerned I may be in the quagmire here? because as I seem to recollect me old fella having a dingdong with me ma over the filling out of the census(could have been something else?) but according to me ma f'in&blindin at me old fella about filling this thing in she cursed him and told him they only want to snoop on people.
So I'll have to see what happens.

Don't mind this thread do you Wozza?

 

[dunk]

that will always be a fact of life in family tree tracking, some doc get destroyed or lost through what ever reason but somewhere there will be a foot print left of some discription, you just need to keep looking, it could take years, info you need can come up in the most unusual of places or written document, what i do if theres a gap i go back further with info i may have then come forward to the point where the gap is then start searching for something to link the two ends of the gap together,
with the girl from russia there must be info before for getting here like when they embarked, likewise when they got here there most likely will be a paper trail after the disembarkment that fits her grand parents,
the thing is if your going to do a family tree, ask any elderly relatives Q`s now before they go< ie, maiden names and how its spelt, any skel`s in the cupboard any family bible`s you may be able to look at or diary`s but you must remember this stuff could be quite personal and will need to be keep that way,
as you have found out DanielW these databases are not exact science they are only a guide, try other databases, if you have a large library by you they will most likely have the gro index on fiche which is exact photo copy of the original books from catherine`s house as it was, time consumming but thats the way research is

 

[dunk]

DanielW generally you can not look at census after 1910, but you are right with what your saying people from gone by could tell nothing but lies, which is why i said check what you find with other evidence (i use that term lightly) you may find

 

[DanielW]

I figured at sometime I'd have to pay a visit to the central libray but this library is big and its an alladins cave of old documents and past history of the city,it does hold huge database of births/deaths/marriages.

Its got quite a few thousand images of old liverpool and its residents.

 

[dunk]

I figured at sometime I'd have to pay a visit to the central libray but this library is big and its an alladins cave of old documents and past history of the city,it does hold huge database of births/deaths/marriages.

Its got quite a few thousand images of old liverpool and its residents.

thats good, people need to use these though or they will lose them even more to the private sector greedy pigs