Fabrication Shop Electric Bill

[Tigman]

the people in the other unit have been quids in then ?
getting all there leccy paid for by you ?

years ago we had trouble with BG , we have gas heaters in the works but rarely had them on , the biggest gas bill we ever had was about £25 for the month any way they decided we needed a new gas meter and duely changed it , the next gas bill we got was £600 for a months gas , I phoned them and said look at your records as the meter had been changed and that we never had a gas bill as big as that , they then said that they hadnt changed the meter and the bill was £600, we had to have them in to prove the gas meter numbers didnt tally and that the meter was new ! seeing is believing !

 

[Gizmo.Y]

This is my first bill.

I have just spoken to the previous tennant. She said her average bill was £105 a month, roughly £25 a week. But she did say when she left, she got a bill for £600 (I actually have this bill at the unit, was delivered a few weeks after we moved in), she said my landlord dealt with it and it was never paid. So its making me wonder if the meter numbers were swapped after i moved in. Which would make sense, my Landlord didnt seem too impressed i had raised this issue. Maybe he had considered it "Fixed" and just expected me to get on and pay the bills....

 

[Justme]

I've changed supplier in the past and they have just used estimated readings for the changeover, wtf, are they mad, I could be paying one company for the electric another supplied.

They generally dont make the elec, they just sell it on.

They buy enough units to cover all the units sold.

So in your case it really did not matter who billed you as they would only pay for units sold by them.

 

[Mee]

Quick question if I can for the sparks here, as I understand it the electric company owns every thing upto and including the electric meter and everything after it belongs to the consumer, so wouldn't the fault here belong to the landlord if the wiring fault is located after the meter

Actually the meters are not owned by the supplier as they are all leased from one German company which is a scam in itself, it is this which is called the standing charge, they may call it a standing charge but it is the supplier letting you pay rent to them (which they hike up and keep a percentage of) and if their is any debt outstanding on the premises they reset the tariff to cover an outstanding debt; it is exactly the same scam they work on domestic properties which has been in the media recently where they replace a meter with the pre-pay meter with a hiked tariff to cover any outstanding debt and they don't care if its yours or not.

If you have any issues you can actually buy your own meter for around £40-60 off fleabay and you own it but it will need professionally installing.

The first port of call is to your supplier, they have a "duty of care" to customers and if they are charging the wrong premises you have recourse to the Ombudsman and recourse to the small claims court, believe me when they serve papers on the supplier they do jump and take action, and they have no defence.

 

[daleyd]

Actually the meters are not owned by the supplier as they are all leased from one German company which is a scam in itself,

Any sources or links for this?

 

[Mee]

Any sources or links for this?

Yes, plenty all over the internet; you could actually do some research and educate yourself.

 

[daleyd]

Well, if it's on the internet so it must be true then I suppose... (except I can't seem to find anything resembling said "scam").

To drag this back on topic and away from tin foil hat territory though I did find this link which may be useful to the OP.

https://www.citizensadvice.org.uk/c...nergy-bill/energy-bill-seems-too-high-or-low/

 

[colnerov]

It's OK big brother is watching him.

 

[Kent]

No Rads (Yet...)

The TIG is plugged in for a total of 3-4 hours a day, 90% of that time its sat idling in between welding. Combined 1 hour a day in Angle Grinder usage, Combined 1 Hour of Battery Charging for drills, PC is on all day 9-5, I have 2 x 150w lights that i turn on around 4 ish as they sun goes down.



God knows! Lukily i know who they are, so im trying to get in contact with them. She did say she left the unit as it was expensive, Which i couldn't understand as the rent is VERY reasonable for the space and amenities. But if she was paying a £400 electric bill every 1/4....I understand why she said it was expensive....

If it's a transformer based machine it will still gobble energy when idling

 

[Gizmo.Y]

Sparky came today. They have the incorrect meter labelled up as mine.

Result! now just the headache of sorting it out now...

 

[Gizmo.Y]

If it's a transformer based machine it will still gobble energy when idling

Draw from the welding is minimal when idling. when using it, it spikes.

 

[mpats]

Sparky came today. They have the incorrect meter labelled up as mine.

Result! now just the headache of sorting it out now...

At least you know what the problem is now, and hopefully can get some co-operation from the leccy suppliers. If they are being obstinate I would also suggest a trip or call to citizens advice bureau. I seem to recall seeing on a program where they usually have the direct phone number for someone reasonably high up at most of these companies and can usually get the ball rolling in the right direction at least. Hope you get it sorted mate, took me a few months to convince SSE that we only have one meter and they shouldn't be billing us for estimated usage on a meter we don't have!

 

[colnerov]

Hi, Do the people in the other unit know what's happened? I can imagine the bleating if and when they get a 'corrected' bill.

Colin

 

[Gizmo.Y]

I dropped the spanner with them earlier. They didn't seem too impressed. On the flip side...I'm looking forward to paying their/ My £150 Bill.

I just hope my landlords willing to do the footwork to get it all sorted.

 

[dannyp]

some landlords are twerps with electric

i've had some funny bills from 1 particular landord in the past was reselling electric. he charged what his opinion of what i used or should be paying was he made running spotlights and welders hatefully expensive.... but i just put up with it and on the scheme of things it was managable and there i had the advantage of a sizeable supply 2x 125A IEC sockets.

what really shocked me was when i got the 45kw electric screw compressor and started useing that rather than the diesel my electric bills were lower probaly because i wasent welding. then i aquired an induction furnace that changed things a bit. for some unknown reason a meter was fitted shortly after

 

[Robotstar5]

...Up till recently my grandparents had a Sangamo timeswitch in their kitchen, ticking was horrific, oddly quiet in there now I've replaced it with a digital one

Sangamo & Venner used to have the timeswitch market covered for many years, at one time, every streetlight had a timeswitch fitted.

 

[brightspark]

Sangamo & Venner used to have the timeswitch market covered for many years, at one time, every streetlight had a timeswitch fitted.

and I can remember them just having an open curved canopy with small square mirrors fitted and a 150w bc bulb fitted . they were great to shoot out with an air pistol or a rock for target practice

 

[Cobbler]

I had one of those round Sangamo timers with a clear cover in the shed for years 'til I got fed up with looking at it& lobbed it out. There must be literally millions still about.

 

[Cobbler]

and I can remember them just having an open curved canopy with small square mirrors fitted and a 150w bc bulb fitted . they were great to shoot out with an air pistol or a rock for target practice

Or a catapult, never went anywhere without one

 

[brightspark]

or one of these https://www.google.co.uk/?gws_rd=ssl#q=the+gat+air+pistol the couldn't knock the skln of a rice pudding