electromagnet box and pan folders

[hotrodder]

Anyone ever used 'em?

Got to thinking about them the other day as it seems everytime i use a box and pan i spend what feels like forever adjusting the thing as whoever used it last was working with material of a very different thickness etc. I assumed they were a fairly recent thing but it turns out they've existed for decades, being patented in the seventies which left me wondering why they seem so rare?

When i first saw the Baileigh version the only thing that jumped out as being potentionally a bit mickey mouse was the clamping beam set back adjusters. Vid of the Baileigh... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zWvMW1Zxoyc and one of the origional Magnabend (appears to available through Chester tools) which is more in depth and demos more useful capabilities... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OipSiPSRti8

Google also through out this http://aaybee.com.au/Magnabend/Magnabend%20Homepage.html which is a series of articles by the inventer including the origonal patents, those funky hinges and instructions to build your own

 

[gavuk]

Bet they know how to charge for them too? looks a very useful tool,wouldn't have thought that pyramid should fold on the baleigh video with such a small clamp piece...looks a lot easier than the edwards i used to use .....I could offer a good home (free!) to your old folder H.R...

 

[bigbadbugga]

want one

 

[bigbadbugga]

just short of £2k is a bit rich for me though

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Baileigh-Indu...ic-Box-Pan-Folder-/160514253719#ht_2408wt_907

 

[Shox Dr]

What a good idea, all be it with limitations of clamping strength.

What's max thickness you fold? Have you seen s Gabro Box and Pan folder, I have the 600mm but there is also a 1000mm version. If you are doing small amounts of the same part, these are great.

 

[Shox Dr]

just short of £2k is a bit rich for me though

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Baileigh-Indu...ic-Box-Pan-Folder-/160514253719#ht_2408wt_907

That's for 1250mm version, I think that's cheap (yes it's me) for what you get and the possibilies of the machine.

HR you are a 1st class CNUT. I now want one, and as my wife is quick to inform me, whatever I want I end up getting




It would fold those crane bits that lass wants doing

 

[bigbadbugga]

That's for 1250mm version, I think that's cheap (yes it's me) for what you get and the possibilies of the machine.

HR you are a 1st class CNUT. I now want one, and as my wife is quick to inform me, whatever I want I end up getting




It would fold those crane bits that lass wants doing

I think the price is good for what it is, just out of my range.

the clamping force is impressive in the demonstration, that beam would take some bending.

maybe in about ten years I'll be able to pick one up S/H on ebay

 

[graffian]

I was sent a VCD by them[Magnabender] about ten years ago, it looks pretty impressive.

 

[hotrodder]

Yeah i don't think expensive either considering what they appear to be capable of. I'd have a tough time justifying one of those electromagnetic things at the mo but am thinking it would pretty much put an end to those 'is it worth the hassle of figuring out a way/faffing around with the machine to fold it from one piece' moments

What's max thickness you fold? Have you seen s Gabro Box and Pan folder, I have the 600mm but there is also a 1000mm version. If you are doing small amounts of the same part, these are great.

Small brackets etc aside typically 2mm ally/1.0mm stainless. Yeah those gabros are very versatile, my world is more one offs but i wouldn't say no to one if it comes at the right price.

HR you are a 1st class CNUT. I now want one, and as my wife is quick to inform me, whatever I want I end up getting:whistle/:

I could offer a good home (free!) to your old folder H.R...

I was sent a VCD by them[Magnabender] about ten years ago, it looks pretty impressive.

Do you remember if it was a UK supplier or the origional Australian company? While even the biggest ones are limited to thin sheet i'm surprised there's not more of them about if they've had a UK presence for that long

 

[gavuk]

I'll take that as a NO then ...

 

[jugs]

Anyone ever used 'em?

Got to thinking about them the other day as it seems everytime i use a box and pan i spend what feels like forever adjusting the thing as whoever used it last was working with material of a very different thickness etc. I assumed they were a fairly recent thing but it turns out they've existed for decades, being patented in the seventies which left me wondering why they seem so rare?

When i first saw the Baileigh version the only thing that jumped out as being potentionally a bit mickey mouse was the clamping beam set back adjusters. Vid of the Baileigh... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zWvMW1Zxoyc and one of the origional Magnabend (appears to available through Chester tools) which is more in depth and demos more useful capabilities... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OipSiPSRti8

Google also through out this http://aaybee.com.au/Magnabend/Magnabend Homepage.html which is a series of articles by the inventer including the origonal patents, those funky hinges and instructions to build your own

Yes, a Magnabend, about 15yrs ago, very impressive (but expensive) - allows you to bend shapes you couldn't do in a 'normal' folder.

You can make you're own top tooling from any steel scrap ideal for one offs R&D etc.

 

[the snooper]

now all we need are plans to build a strong enough electro magnet cant be that hard.
and enamelled copper wire is readilly available

 

[jugs]

See this for coil plans -> http://aaybee.com.au/Magnabend/Magna...0Homepage.html

 

[the snooper]

See this for coil plans -> http://aaybee.com.au/Magnabend/Magna...0Homepage.html

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[hotrodder]

There's plans in the last link of my OP, just checked the link and it's working. Googling 'aaybee Magnabend' will get you there too

Jugs, it was as good as it appears to be then?

 

[the snooper]

a good prject there might have a go

cheers

 

[bigbadbugga]

Some of those hinge designs are pretty clever too, I might have a go at making some for the folder I build myself

 

[graffian]

Do you remember if it was a UK supplier or the origional Australian company? While even the biggest ones are limited to thin sheet i'm surprised there's not more of them about if they've had a UK presence for that long

It was direct from the Australian company. I think I saw it on the net in ~1998.

 

[jugs]

There's plans in the last link of my OP, just checked the link and it's working. Googling 'aaybee Magnabend' will get you there too

Jugs, it was as good as it appears to be then?

Yes, very easy to use, but a bit strange at first after using a box & pan as most of the machine is missing (a good example of less is more ) wish I still had one.

 

[hotrodder]

Cheers guys