stuvy
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2050 - horse and steam power rule. ICE and battery vehicles are only seen in museums.
Well throw me in prison as I will continue to ride my bikes on the road
2050 - horse and steam power rule. ICE and battery vehicles are only seen in museums.
This video sums it up fairly nicely without appearing to be a battery vehicle fanboy production:
Basically, round trip efficiency is terrible, the fuelling infrastructure isn’t there, the engineering required in the car is very complex, the costs per mile are horrendous
Makes far more sense to put the electricity directly into batteries and eliminate a ton of conversion steps. And then give the end user a simpler car that they can fill up at home.
Is that enough fuel to pwer those cars for 24 hours, or just for a trip down the shops? Driving for 24 hrs should take you quite far - 1400 miles or so?
I realise this is nonsense, but so was your cost/output scenario, for example if you have built your solar array, put your wind or water turbine in, all you need is the compressor and chiller?
Yes you have the latent losses in creating and storing hydrogen, and opposite that is the better efficiency of electric, but if you burn the gas in the ICE you don't have the battery issue, other than one to spin the starter.
The losses are in creating the gas and running the ICE. No need to dig big holes in the ground to make batteries.
It’s true that they will need to increase base power generation.
Yes you have the latent losses in creating and storing hydrogen, and opposite that is the better efficiency of electric, but if you burn the gas in the ICE you don't have the battery issue, other than one to spin the starter.
The losses are in creating the gas and running the ICE. No need to dig big holes in the ground to make batteries.
How much electricity is used making petrol?
What powers the machines that dig for battery material?
Electricity powered digging monsters.
I was thinking something like this,
But in third world places it is always the poor locals who do the work.
Great for First world places, maybe in Second world contrives, where there is a lot of foreign investment.
But in third world places it is always the poor locals who do the work.
If you have a hydrogen fuel cell though you don’t need large batteries? I thought the point of the fuel cell was that it can produce electricity “on demand” - so to speak.Yes you have the latent losses in creating and storing hydrogen, and opposite that is the better efficiency of electric, but if you burn the gas in the ICE you don't have the battery issue, other than one to spin the starter.
The losses are in creating the gas and running the ICE. No need to dig big holes in the ground to make batteries.
If you have a hydrogen fuel cell though you don’t need large batteries? I thought the point of the fuel cell was that it can produce electricity “on demand” - so to speak.
Efficiencies will be similar to petrol, once you have the gas in the engine, but what are the emmissions?The problem with burning hydrogen, is the emmissions, and the efficiency reduces even further, you might as well burn petrol.
Yes, but not a massive bank like a pure electric car.It’s not instant or linear, you need batteries in order to smooth the output.
But that need for less batteries and less mining for the lithium , is replaced by mining the expensive minerals used in the fuel cell to produce the electricity from HydrogenYes, but not a massive bank like a pure electric car.