electric heating house?

[garethp]

Direct electric heating is probably the most expensive option, as much insulation as you can get in is a good place to start as its a one off spend and reduces the heat loss to a minimum. Think of cavity insulation, decent amount of loft insulation, draft proofing etc.

Ground Source Heat Pumps are good if installed correctly and can be a nightmare if not, the best efficiency is obtained by running the indoor side as cool as possible so it works well with underfloor heating or over sized radiators. Pellet boilers can also be a pain in the @rse if poorly installed and need a decent size dry storage area.

Head on over to the forum at navitron.org.uk - You'll get loads of advice about all your options from people who've already done it.

 

[Kent]

I've fitted several systems on estates built in the early 90's with no gas, as the govt promised cheap nuclear powered electricity that never happened

The units are physically larger than the "normal" air source ones and we had to import them from Germany but a single unit provides heating and hot water for a 3 bed family home, cheaper than it being all elec

Veissman? they certainly make different units for air source rather than air con units turned round

 

[Kayos]

Veissman? they certainly make different units for air source rather than air con units turned round

I can't possibly say as we had some rebranding done as per the funding providers, but they do make some very good high end boilers as well as the heat pumps etc

 

[mart]

What about pelleted fuel is there not a Gov grant for it? then again how much paperwork & inflated inst cost by Approved firms.
Friend had Electric boiler that flamed out the cost of replacing was
Warm front came from Wales to Somerset to quote the price was 50% higher than local Co so even with gov grant it was cheaper to use local chap.

Not wanting to go off topic, but I would advise anyone & everyone to avoid this company like the plague. I had a bolier fitted by them. They use different names etc and pretend to be a different company when things go wrong. Another name they use is Iguana. Don`t take my word for this. There is loads of of stuff online about them. (Hopefully they are no longer in business).

 

[mart]

Bottle gas is very expensive, the cheapest option is heating oil and a modern boiler. I use around a tank of oil in18 months in a well insulated detached bungalow, with a wood burner that only runs when I'm about.

I have a bit of interest in oil fired boilers.
Can you tell us what you spend in one year though - Spring Summer Autumn Winter.(How many bedrooms) It`s difficult to get an idea of cost otherwise

 

[penfold]

Is there some ongoing gov help as well or was that clever gov speak

The government pay you to heat your house; it's madness but if you have the space for one, the capital to pay upfront for it and a need for a new boiler you'd be daft not to do it.

The domestic renewable heat incentive is a boiler replacement scheme, aiming to bridge the gap between the cost of a replacement oil or LPG boiler and the cost of a renewable heating system. Biomass boilers and biomass pellet stoves with back boilers are eligible for a tariff rate of 10.98p per kWh, index-linked and paid quarterly in arrears for seven years.

Energy Saving Trust

 

[mart]

Not sure if there is enough space to put in a tank above ground for LPG. Guessing that putting it under ground would cost a bit as well. Is the minimum distance for a LPG tank 5meters from buildings or is it more.
Thinking about oil but I'm guessing the price has to go up again. As diesel up here is back to £1.17 a litre and haven't heard anything about oil prices increasing.
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The "oil" that is used by oil fired boilers is very similar to paraffin or Kerosene. I was buying it from a heating oil supplier in Sheffield last spring/summer and using in my flame gun (burning weeds). It was only 70 odd pence per litre. I have no idea at all what the rate of burn is on the average oil fired boiler. Anyone have the rough figures?

 

[octo0072000]

Not wanting to go off topic, but I would advise anyone & everyone to avoid this company like the plague. I had a bolier fitted by them. They use different names etc and pretend to be a different company when things go wrong. Another name they use is Iguana. Don`t take my word for this. There is loads of of stuff online about them. (Hopefully they are no longer in business).

Warm front was a government scheme now long gone next door used to work for them

 

[Rig Pig]

I have a bit of interest in oil fired boilers.
Can you tell us what you spend in one year though - Spring Summer Autumn Winter.(How many bedrooms) It`s difficult to get an idea of cost otherwise

I burn 1 load of logs (2.5 cu Mt stack) and around 700 ~ 800 ltrs of heating oil per year, the house is at 19 deg + all winter. It's a well insulated large open plan 2 bed detached bungalow with a conservatory.

 

[Rig Pig]

The "oil" that is used by oil fired boilers is very similar to paraffin or Kerosene. I was buying it from a heating oil supplier in Sheffield last spring/summer and using in my flame gun (burning weeds). It was only 70 odd pence per litre. I have no idea at all what the rate of burn is on the average oil fired boiler. Anyone have the rough figures?

Oil burner nozzles are calibrated in gallons/hr it should be stamped on the side along with the spray angle.

 

[Kent]

About 1000 ltrs this winter about 4000-4500 m3 well insulated but very exposed and a wife and two daughters that run more hot water than one might ever credit. A lot depends on a lot, the best way to compare fuel to fuel is on calorific value / cost per KW (oil is currently the best off grid). Most use Kero unless they have an Aga or the likes as it can add a certain niff I am told.
The nice thing about oil over LPG is your free to buy from who you like and have no lock in. Also buying groups exist and these can further cut your costs by bulk ordering and price monitoring

 

[mart]

Thanks for the clarification about oil boilers and costs etc.

The thing that goads me is the standing charge with gas (electric/water etc) is the standing charge. 24.77p per DAY x 90 days (for a quarter bill) = over £22, and that is before you’ve burnt any gas, 4 times per year every year. I’ll bet they wouldn’t let the customer buy the meter. Even mortgages are paid off eventually

 

[Kayos]

Meters I fit don't have a standing charge, the customer is just tied in for 12 months

Seems a better model to me

 

[Fintray]

The "oil" that is used by oil fired boilers is very similar to paraffin or Kerosene. I was buying it from a heating oil supplier in Sheffield last spring/summer and using in my flame gun (burning weeds). It was only 70 odd pence per litre. I have no idea at all what the rate of burn is on the average oil fired boiler. Anyone have the rough figures?

And as Rig Pig said they are in gallons/hr I'm assuming US gallons so 4L/hr for the nozzle in my boiler (Camray 90000-130000Btu). As always the best money you can spend on keeping your house as warm as possible for the least ongoing cost is to insulate to the max.