Edf desperate?

[minimutly]

Just had edf offering £100 of credit if I fit an intelligent meter - what next...

 

[Seadog]

Don't fall for it.

 

[joebog1]

Fit two meters !!!. Intelligent meters really are intelligent.
They work for nothing for the power companies.
They WILL know when you use your electric razor though.

Joe

 

[Barking Mat]

Why not ? My consumption of electricity is monitored and my direct debits changed as necessary. No nasty bills.

But I'm in France.

 

[MattF]

Just had edf offering £100 of credit if I fit an intelligent meter - what next...

100 quid for doing nothing. I take it you've accepted?

 

[Seadog]

Why not ? My consumption of electricity is monitored and my direct debits changed as necessary. No nasty bills.

But I'm in France.

Exactly.

 

[Kayos]

@Wozzaaah @malcolm can we ban smart meter threads please?

Most tinfoil hat threads on here, and that's saying something

 

[stuvy]

@Wozzaaah @malcolm can we ban smart meter threads please?

Most tinfoil hat threads on here, and that's saying something

Or chose not to read them?

 

[brightspark]

why. as above just dont read them if its not to your taste no ones forcing you

 

[Screwdriver]

Just had edf offering £100 of credit if I fit an intelligent meter - what next...

The energy companies have more money than they know what to do with. Higher prices just mean higher profits at the same margin (but since gas prices are actually falling, that's a moot point).

The need for "smart" meters is to monitor consumption so that they can target a population to maximise profit even more efficiently. For example, offer you discounted prices when they know you don't need it to make the "average" look lower. They can also use these devices to disconnect people who can no longer afford to pay these inflated prices.

What next? Well, inevitably, the law will change to allow these companies to max out the cost to non-smart users and only offer a "discount" to customers who succumb to the control of a smart meter.

What gets me is the "rule" which states once your property has had a smart meter, it can NEVER not have one... WTF is that all about...

 

[finyuk2005]

Just had edf offering £100 of credit if I fit an intelligent meter - what next...

better than the letter dad got, saying its now compulsory to have one fitted,
the dirty bathplugs!!

 

[minimutly]

The energy companies have more money than they know what to do with. Higher prices just mean higher profits at the same margin (but since gas prices are actually falling, that's a moot point).

The need for "smart" meters is to monitor consumption so that they can target a population to maximise profit even more efficiently. For example, offer you discounted prices when they know you don't need it to make the "average" look lower. They can also use these devices to disconnect people who can no longer afford to pay these inflated prices.

What next? Well, inevitably, the law will change to allow these companies to max out the cost to non-smart users and only offer a "discount" to customers who succumb to the control of a smart meter.

What gets me is the "rule" which states once your property has had a smart meter, it can NEVER not have one... WTF is that all about...

Tinfoil, pure tinfoil.
Yes about the money they have spare, and prices should be going down. But the g.ment created ofgem to stop this....
The "need for smart meters" is a government directive. They can target me all they like, it won't change my usage patters, unless its to my benefit.
They've never been used to disconnect anyone - yet...
I've resisted until now, purely because there were no advantages, £100 is an advantage, I think I'll take them up on it. Before I started building hydro turbines I spent quite a bit of time doing "energy management" - I learnt a fair bit about the supply industry, and how greedy they are. However, metering your usage is not a dirty horrible deed - I don't believe the hype they claim for them, but if it saves me getting on a chair now and again I have nothing against it. Now, if I can get them to read and pay me for my export for free I'll be onto a winner.

 

[Screwdriver]

Tinfoil, pure tinfoil.
Yes about the money they have spare, and prices should be going down. But the g.ment created ofgem to stop this....
The "need for smart meters" is a government directive. They can target me all they like, it won't change my usage patters, unless its to my benefit.
They've never been used to disconnect anyone - yet...
I've resisted until now, purely because there were no advantages, £100 is an advantage, I think I'll take them up on it. Before I started building hydro turbines I spent quite a bit of time doing "energy management" - I learnt a fair bit about the supply industry, and how greedy they are. However, metering your usage is not a dirty horrible deed - I don't believe the hype they claim for them, but if it saves me getting on a chair now and again I have nothing against it. Now, if I can get them to read and pay me for my export for free I'll be onto a winner.

I wish that were true.

Glad we're not disagreeing about the money...
Yes it is a government directive. Who do you suppose convinced them to create that directive? And why would the energy companies petition/lobby (bribe) our government to do so? My assumption is it is for profit and control and if I wasn't wearing my tinfoil hat, I'd suggest that trail leads all the way back to the WEF.
Never been used to disconnect huh? Well, there's a loophole which opens up when you have a "smart" meter. Yes they can switch off your power rmotely, no they are not allowed to but they can unilaterally decided to "upgrade" your smart meter to a pay-as-you-go and if you don't/can't pay, nuffin to do with me mate, you switched yourself off... (That has happened thousands of times already - it's an open secret).
Their greed as with all large corporations is of course understandable but is it sustainable? Where will it end. The control element and useage monitoring is effectively data mining. Do not doubt for one moment that everything they know about you as an individual customer is valuable data they can and will sell.

The long term effect of targeted advertising is as yet unknown. However, since advertising by its very nature seeks to convince you things could be better and you should be unhappy with what you've got until you buy <one of these>, I wonder if all it's really doing is spreading misery.

 

[Kayos]

Or chose not to read them?

Why didn't I think of that?

 

[Kayos]

The energy companies have more money than they know what to do with. Higher prices just mean higher profits at the same margin (but since gas prices are actually falling, that's a moot point).

The need for "smart" meters is to monitor consumption so that they can target a population to maximise profit even more efficiently. For example, offer you discounted prices when they know you don't need it to make the "average" look lower. They can also use these devices to disconnect people who can no longer afford to pay these inflated prices.

What next? Well, inevitably, the law will change to allow these companies to max out the cost to non-smart users and only offer a "discount" to customers who succumb to the control of a smart meter.

What gets me is the "rule" which states once your property has had a smart meter, it can NEVER not have one... WTF is that all about...

Please can you supply a link about the rule at the bottom of your post. 35 minutes of googling has given me nothing, other than forum and blog rantings

As someone who has both fitted many smart meters (had a career break 2014-2015) and removed some I am hoping I haven't broken this 'rule' while carrying out my paid employment?