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Made a start on the legs. Finally got them in the vat and derusted, so they've had a whiff of the paint now. Thought I might as well get on with this Drummond again rather than overly phaffing with the Ehrlich, which was supposed to be a non project, get it up and running quickly type machine. 
Ripped the liner on the electrolysis vat getting the large leg in there, but the leak was slow enough for me to get a day or so for the leg in there. First coat on the small leg and one coat on the inner surface of the plinth leg.
That plinth is a heavy one man lift. Ripped the liner due to having to slide it in. Couldn't lean too far over the vat else I'd have followed it in.
Ripped the liner on the electrolysis vat getting the large leg in there, but the leak was slow enough for me to get a day or so for the leg in there. First coat on the small leg and one coat on the inner surface of the plinth leg.
That plinth is a heavy one man lift. Ripped the liner due to having to slide it in. Couldn't lean too far over the vat else I'd have followed it in.
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It sounds like you were quite attached to your machine. I hope this one turns out half as decent as yours sounds to have been. 
Hopefully it'll not be too long before I have something resembling complete to show. I let someone have my Warwick lathe, (I still have access to it if I need to use it), so that I'd be more inclined to get one of the larger machines up and running, (I'm pretty much working latheless at the moment, unless I run the treadle powered Roundbed), and with that Ehrlich throwing every problem it can into the mix, I thought I'd be better off putting my time and efforts into this one instead.
Just need to make some type of container up to house the bed for derusting, as it's too long for owt I currently have set up. That and the leadscrews are the only parts which need derusting now. The apron needs some minor rebuild work on a gear or two too, but those have only suffered minimal damage so shouldn't be much of a task. Pin and braze should sort those.
On a slight deviation, I'm sure this latest tin of paint I've got is notably darker than the last, so it may look a bit weird when done if so. Same paint, finish, supplier and colour code, but unless my eyes deceive me, it definitely seems a tad darker.
Hopefully it'll not be too long before I have something resembling complete to show. I let someone have my Warwick lathe, (I still have access to it if I need to use it), so that I'd be more inclined to get one of the larger machines up and running, (I'm pretty much working latheless at the moment, unless I run the treadle powered Roundbed), and with that Ehrlich throwing every problem it can into the mix, I thought I'd be better off putting my time and efforts into this one instead.Just need to make some type of container up to house the bed for derusting, as it's too long for owt I currently have set up. That and the leadscrews are the only parts which need derusting now. The apron needs some minor rebuild work on a gear or two too, but those have only suffered minimal damage so shouldn't be much of a task. Pin and braze should sort those.
On a slight deviation, I'm sure this latest tin of paint I've got is notably darker than the last, so it may look a bit weird when done if so.
Same paint, finish, supplier and colour code, but unless my eyes deceive me, it definitely seems a tad darker.
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Aye, I can remember those. I've already saved your photo's for future reference. It's the functionality of use I've never sampled yet. I've not had the enjoyment of actually using one as yet, so you have the edge on me. The build quality of the Drummonds never fails to impress though. Even the quality of their castings, they're just so much better than owt else I've come across so far. Minimal air holes, alignment of halves is almost perfect to the point where they never ground things down like a lot of manufacturers did to make parts look aligned etc., and I've not found a jot of filler in any casting as yet. Some of the stuff I've worked on so far, I'd swear the manufacturers must've had shares in companies manufacturing body filler.
Did consider a bath, but if ours is standard size, they wouldn't be quite long enough. Yup, I have measured. The slope opposite the tap end eats into their usable length. What's the standard length of a bath? Ours might just be a bit of a short **** variety.
It's the functionality of use I've never sampled yet. I've not had the enjoyment of actually using one as yet, so you have the edge on me. The build quality of the Drummonds never fails to impress though. Even the quality of their castings, they're just so much better than owt else I've come across so far. Minimal air holes, alignment of halves is almost perfect to the point where they never ground things down like a lot of manufacturers did to make parts look aligned etc., and I've not found a jot of filler in any casting as yet. Some of the stuff I've worked on so far, I'd swear the manufacturers must've had shares in companies manufacturing body filler. Did consider a bath, but if ours is standard size, they wouldn't be quite long enough. Yup, I have measured.
The slope opposite the tap end eats into their usable length. What's the standard length of a bath? Ours might just be a bit of a short **** variety. 
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Oops. What I'm about to post won't help any then.
Nice machines are those. One I've never had the pleasure of seeing in person, as yet. A very capable machine, by all accounts. Make sure you pop some photo's up when you get it.
This is why I had to venture down South on Wednesday. It's only taken me nigh on a year to get down there for it.
The truck seems to have been laid up more than it's been running for the last year or so, so I got down there whilst everything is working peachy on the truck.
As you can likely tell, yet another long haul resto' lathe. Dual height 5", same as the other one, but this one is a gnats older. Probably dates from around 1913 or 1914, as close as I can tell. Has some minor casting damage, but nothing detrimental to use. Shedloads of rust though.
Also got a 9" 3 jaw chuck and 14" faceplate with this one. I still don't have a full set of gears though. Me and Drummond gears just aren't meant to be, I've come to believe. Not one single Drummond so far has had a full set of gears.
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From the looks of it, the bed seems in quite good condition on this one. Quite a clean surface under the rust. It's been sat unused for the last forty or so years too, which was one reason I jumped at the chance of this one. Granted it hasn't been stored in the best of conditions, obviously,
but that's a lot of years without any wear being added. This one won't be getting started on any time soon, probably. I was more bothered about getting it out of the chaps way than owt else. I've felt guilty as hell not being able to get down there for it for so long.More rugged machine though, I believe? The ML4 have quite a flimsy bed in comparison?
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Well, the next door neighbour made the mistake of going out in the back garden today. He got stuck with helping me lift the other 5" bed into the shed too. I think he was just rather glad that this one had less bits on it. The first one still had the saddle and everything attached when we lifted that one in.
He got stuck with helping me lift the other 5" bed into the shed too. I think he was just rather glad that this one had less bits on it. The first one still had the saddle and everything attached when we lifted that one in.
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I'm getting too old for this lugging lark. 5" No. 3 picked up today. This one is the oldest one of the lot, but conversely is in the best general condition, (read that as meaning almost rust free ). Once I clean off the copious amounts of grease and swarf from everything, I'm hoping this one should be able to be set up as a basic runner whilst I get the other ones sorted. This lugging heavy bits about is going to be the death of me though.
Was quite chuffed when I went for it as some of the bits I thought were missing aren't, though there are some fairly minor problems which need sorting, mainly a couple of chunks missing from the original pulley and some of the apron gears need work, though that's becoming an expected occurence with these 5" machines.
5" No. 3 picked up today. This one is the oldest one of the lot, but conversely is in the best general condition, (read that as meaning almost rust free ). Once I clean off the copious amounts of grease and swarf from everything, I'm hoping this one should be able to be set up as a basic runner whilst I get the other ones sorted. This lugging heavy bits about is going to be the death of me though.
Was quite chuffed when I went for it as some of the bits I thought were missing aren't, though there are some fairly minor problems which need sorting, mainly a couple of chunks missing from the original pulley and some of the apron gears need work, though that's becoming an expected occurence with these 5" machines.
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Looking at this thread, I've suddenly realised what a tardy git I am when it comes to getting stuff sorted in a timely manner. Still not got any of those lathes done as yet. I have got some pieces of 3/4" ply knocking about which are large enough to make a vat for the beds though, so I'm gonna have to get off my **** and get these sorted.
A smaller Drummond is currently being worked upon. I've had the parts sat on the bench for around a year now, so decided it was time to make a start on it and hopefully get my bench space back. It's a MS type. I've only derusted the quadrant and headstock assembly so far. Going with that graphite paste finish for this one. Thought I'd give it a whirl and see how it looks on a full machine. The main lathe bits:
The bed is currently in the vat. The headstock and quadrant before and after.
I've removed most of the paint, (that green and the grey underneath it), but left the remnants of the original black paint in place where it was sound. Just seemed a shame to remove the remaining original paint. That's why the surface of that quadrant looks a bit patchy.
Still not got any of those lathes done as yet. I have got some pieces of 3/4" ply knocking about which are large enough to make a vat for the beds though, so I'm gonna have to get off my **** and get these sorted.A smaller Drummond is currently being worked upon. I've had the parts sat on the bench for around a year now, so decided it was time to make a start on it and hopefully get my bench space back. It's a MS type. I've only derusted the quadrant and headstock assembly so far. Going with that graphite paste finish for this one. Thought I'd give it a whirl and see how it looks on a full machine. The main lathe bits:
The bed is currently in the vat. The headstock and quadrant before and after.
I've removed most of the paint, (that green and the grey underneath it), but left the remnants of the original black paint in place where it was sound. Just seemed a shame to remove the remaining original paint. That's why the surface of that quadrant looks a bit patchy.
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I'm enjoying it,I prob wouldn't have seen it if you hadn't revived the thread.
I'm making a brew then going in search of the Ehrlich saga.
I'm making a brew then going in search of the Ehrlich saga.
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Ah, the Ehrlich. That's currently dismantled, stored in various places in the shed. Really need to get a chuck backplate for that sorted. I hate to admit it, with all of the lathes I have stashed here, but there isn't currently one that's up and running.
Really need to get a chuck backplate for that sorted. I hate to admit it, with all of the lathes I have stashed here, but there isn't currently one that's up and running.
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Ah, the Ehrlich. That's currently dismantled, stored in various places in the shed.
Quoting myself is bad, I know,
but currently in two minds whether to keep or let the Ehrlich go. Been changing things around in the workshop this week, and I'll be damned if I can find anywhere to stash all of the bits. If anyone fancies taking on a project lathe.... That Drummond bed has spent a few days in the vat, to get rid of the slight surface rust and to remove that grey paint. Ended up losing the remnants of the original paint on it too, unfortunately, but at least the grey is gone.
Did you assemble the lathe that you were painting green? I've found that to get the overspray off machined surfaces hand scrapers work very well (the types used for scraping bedways & bearings).
I'm interested in the Eirlich lathe, the one I bought has many similarities to an Eirlich. Thread is here, you have posted on it!
http://www.mig-welding.co.uk/forum/threads/info-needed-on-unusual-lathe.52877/
Embarrassingly that lathe is still sitting untouched on the trailer it arrived on nearly a year ago!
I need to get someone with a telescopic loader to lift it off & before I do that I need to make 2 dollys to move it around on whilst I'm working on it. But when the Myford ML7 arrived it gave me a working lathe so there was less urgency to get the big lathe working. But the Myford had its limitations & I really need to get the other one going. Unfortunately due to my health my days in the workshop are restricted so it might be still on the trailer next year!
I'm interested in the Eirlich lathe, the one I bought has many similarities to an Eirlich. Thread is here, you have posted on it!
http://www.mig-welding.co.uk/forum/threads/info-needed-on-unusual-lathe.52877/
Embarrassingly that lathe is still sitting untouched on the trailer it arrived on nearly a year ago!
I need to get someone with a telescopic loader to lift it off & before I do that I need to make 2 dollys to move it around on whilst I'm working on it. But when the Myford ML7 arrived it gave me a working lathe so there was less urgency to get the big lathe working. But the Myford had its limitations & I really need to get the other one going. Unfortunately due to my health my days in the workshop are restricted so it might be still on the trailer next year!
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Still need to make a vat which is big enough to take the bed of that lathe. Should hopefully be getting that sorted over the next few months though. I have some ply here to make it with, so just need to get round to doing it.
I do similar with paint. I generally use copper though, to make sure I'm using something softer than the base metal. Occasionally I will get a bearing scraper out on the odd awkward to reach bit, but I'm always a bit cautious with those, for obvious reason.
I'm interested in the Eirlich lathe, the one I bought has many similarities to an Eirlich. Thread is here, you have posted on it!
http://www.mig-welding.co.uk/forum/threads/info-needed-on-unusual-lathe.52877/
Embarrassingly that lathe is still sitting untouched on the trailer it arrived on nearly a year ago!
Extended projects appear to be something most of us suffer from on here, so you're definitely not alone. With the size of that lathe, definitely not something you want to be messing around with if you're not feeling 100% either. If you do ever make some dolly's for it, make them wide for stability and make sure they're braked. A tipping or runaway machine is no fun. 