Driving tests: What will happen to manual tests/licences when all new cars are electric?

[Bornfree]

HGV tests are now taken in an auto and allow you to drive a manual. I guess car tests will be the same.

 

[redlig]

I am a short erse (5ft8", 29" leg) but it is not too bad. I bought a low seat option in preparation for the AT arriving and put that on and can have both feet flat on the ground with it in the low setting (820mm I think) After a few days I put the standard seat back on but in the low position which is 850mm and I can almost flat foot both sides. The last day I put the low seat back on but in the high position which makes it 845mm but have not tested it out yet. Reason I put that on is it just looks better as the pillion seat and the back of the main seat are flush and the bit that goes up the tank sits at the top of the clear tank protection Honda have put on and hides it. I will see what it is like but the low seat in the low position did give me a numb rear end after a while so likely it will be the same in the higher position.

Hell things have changed since I gave up bikes . Now we are into fine tuning the seat height what next ? Tyre warmers for a trip to the shops or wets and dries for weather changes.

 

[Justme]

HGV tests are now taken in an auto and allow you to drive a manual. I guess car tests will be the same.

Only if you already hold a manual car licence.

If you hold an auto car licence you only get an auto lorry licence.

 

[The Artilleryman]

HGV tests are now taken in an auto and allow you to drive a manual. I guess car tests will be the same.

PSV the same, but as I took mine pre 1997 I'm restricted to auto only (with over 30 years experience), yet some oik who does it now on an auto can drive stick as well - go figure.

 

[dobbslc]

It's been tweaked a little too give more torque lower in the rev range at the expense of top end power. The modes on the manual are wet, normal, sport and user custom. Tend to go with normal in town and sport everywhere else.

Though out on the no modes, no mod cons XV tomorrow morning

Surely XV has hippy mode, watch you don't catch your flares on the footpegs

I don't understand all the fuss . As long as you can speak reasonably clearly into a microphone the 'car ' will do the rest .No driving required all you will have to do is play some inane game on the Infotainment center until you arrive . Simples. Thank the lord I won't be here.

I can imagine all these tracksuit wearing F wits drawling fake Patois into the dash and going nowhere

 

[Hood]

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I can imagine all these tracksuit wearing F wits drawling fake Patois into the dash and going nowhere

 

[redlig]

Surely XV has hippy mode, watch you don't catch your flares on the footpegs

I can imagine all these tracksuit wearing F wits drawling fake Patois into the dash and going nowhere

Who's to say that everyone won't have sunk to that level by then and the car will understand. Lets face it the car will do whatever any numpty wants it to do already. " The meek ( weak minded ) will inherit the earth"

 

[stuvy]

Iv said it many a time I will be out riding my cr500 and I’m keeping my disco v8.
Charge me loads I’m still driving it rather than a soulless golf buggy

 

[mike os]

Part of me likes the idea of autonomous vehicles for motorways and trunk routes certainly.... because they are generally boring and the level of traffic and idiocy could be better controlled...... cant tailgate, perform a BMW slip road manoeuvre, hog lanes ......

 

[eLuSiVeMiTe]

Part of me likes the idea of autonomous vehicles for motorways and trunk routes certainly.... because they are generally boring and the level of traffic and idiocy could be better controlled...... cant tailgate, perform a BMW slip road manoeuvre, hog lanes ......

Biggest issue with autonomous vehicles is having to mix with real drivers. We are too unpredictable.

 

[mike os]

Biggest issue with autonomous vehicles is having to mix with real drivers. We are too unpredictable.

No mixing ... if your vehicle has a nut behind the wheel, take the alternate route ...

 

[eLuSiVeMiTe]

No mixing ... if your vehicle has a nut behind the wheel, take the alternate route ...

Can't maintain the roads we have. Can't imagine dedicated roads being built for them.

 

[mike os]

Can't maintain the roads we have. Can't imagine dedicated roads being built for them.

When has it ever gone that way? It would be non autonomous banned from motorways ...

 

[eLuSiVeMiTe]

When has it ever gone that way? It would be non autonomous banned from motorways ...

A tad discriminatory.

Not something I would willingly submit to. Gov doesn't exactly have a good track record when it comes to coding

 

[MetalMonkey]

Can't maintain the roads we have. Can't imagine dedicated roads being built for them.

Its almost like you need a separate network of routes for automated goods vehicles - perhaps something with stops at strategic points and centralised automatic control and mointoring systems.
You could electrify these routes as well, so that they don't need batteries, that would save on resources and power.
And as a safety measure you could ensure they go where you want them to by installing some "guide rails" for them to follow.

Oh.... hang on... wait a minute..... *

* (I know I'm being facetious and rail it isn't a viable solution to everything, but we could make better use of it, invest in and unify the network and alleviate a lot of freight form the roads IMO).

 

[eLuSiVeMiTe]

Its almost like you need a separate network of routes for automated goods vehicles - perhaps something with stops at strategic points and centralised automatic control and mointoring systems.
You could electrify these routes as well, so that they don't need batteries, that would save on resources and power.
And as a safety measure you could ensure they go where you want them to by installing some "guide rails" for them to follow.

Oh.... hang on... wait a minute..... *

* (I know I'm being facetious and rail it isn't a viable solution to everything, but we could make better use of it, invest in and unify the network and alleviate a lot of freight form the roads IMO).

Aye. I was going to write similar but couldn't be bothered to spare the effort.

It's all pipe dreams anyway. By the time Mr Bo Jangles and co have finished raping the country nobody's gonna be able to afford a new vehicle let alone an electric autonomous vehicle.

 

[mike os]

A tad discriminatory.

and no road tax for electric vehicles isnt?, no congestion charge for same isnt? the additional thousands in tax for a large engined vehicle isnt?

it will be "for your safety" or "for the environment" .... and neither the government or the green idiots care what you think or feel, historically, now or in the future.

 

[MetalMonkey]

Aye. I was going to write similar but couldn't be bothered to spare the effort.

It's all pipe dreams anyway. By the time Mr Bo Jangles and co have finished raping the country nobody's gonna be able to afford a new vehicle let alone an electric autonomous vehicle.

It's something I have been thinking about for a while, with all this talk of automated electric HGVs.

We have loads of ex beeching lines around here, as I imagine they are all over the country - perhaps unsuitable for modern rail freight, but probably could be reinstated for a lightweight automated trains, getting freight in to the smaller towns and cities that don't have large freight terminals.

Seems to me like it would be a hell of a lot easier to automate a train, which is pretty much automatic anyway, rather than reinvent the wheel and automate an HGV, and make it run on batteries, and let it loose amongst the general public - hoping you can write software which will account for every eventuality and weird situation it might encounter. I suspect it would also work out to be a lot smaller carbon footprint too.

 

[eLuSiVeMiTe]

and no road tax for electric vehicles isnt?, no congestion charge for same isnt? the additional thousands in tax for a large engined vehicle isnt?

it will be "for your safety" or "for the environment" .... and neither the government or the green idiots care what you think or feel, historically, now or in the future.

No it isn't fair But how else are they gonna get people into ev

Worry about the technical hurdles later.

 

[redlig]

Part of me likes the idea of autonomous vehicles for motorways and trunk routes certainly.... because they are generally boring and the level of traffic and idiocy could be better controlled...... cant tailgate, perform a BMW slip road manoeuvre, hog lanes ......

In fact no fun at all.