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The stress riser is on the outside, where the relief is designed for the jaw to close. The diamond cutout serves no purpose other than weight saving, but also doesn't lose much strength since the main tensile stress is on the outside.
Looks weaker overall than a proper adjustable, though. I wonder if it was just bad luck of if they are all a bit weaker than they should be?
How is it to use over a good bahco?
Looks weaker overall than a proper adjustable, though. I wonder if it was just bad luck of if they are all a bit weaker than they should be?
How is it to use over a good bahco?
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You'd think, but clearly the stress has concentrated in that area else it wouldn't have cracked.
Depends on application, these have uses that an adjustable doesn't, they are a bit slimmer too but for general turning of large fasteners the bahco is still leagues ahead.
One major benefit of the knipex is that because they are a plier too then you can effectively "ratchet" on a fastener.
These are also excellent for squeezing small aluminium solid countersink rivets because the jaws close parallel.
It will be but still, these are definitely a victim of cost cutting as the old ones are better.
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update us how the warranty goes
disappointing to see , i still like mine though , was you giving it some grunt at the time or no?
disappointing to see , i still like mine though , was you giving it some grunt at the time or no?
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Definitely not, just nipping up the bolts on the vertical head of the milling machine.
Funny how tools tend to break when you are not abusing them.
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I had a similar experience with a set of Dewalt drills. I got the 8mm out to use it , put it in the chuck and it actually fell in half without ever getting close to the metal. Clean break with no sign of having been stressed or bent. Tools aren't the same any more. That's why I hunt out old tools that are made of metal and not the modern ones that look and feel like they've been 3D printed in a plastics foundry.
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Not sure I agree fully with this, though I do agree some older stuff is better - quality tools are still quality tools, and advances in material science/design etc mean things keep sharp for longer, or just work better - obviously there are exceptions and cheap tat is still just that, I’m not trying to defend that. I think people tend to forget some of the junk that was produced in the past, obviously the old stuff that is still around and has survived is the good stuff, so worth searching out.
I reckon cast iron stuff is the exception, the older stuff does seem to be “better” somehow, probably as they didn’t have things like CAD to make it with the minimum amount of material so it was just made with a massive amount of over engineering.
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I've got the 150mm version and very rarely use any other plier, the jaws only move a few mm for the full swing of the handle so at the tip they grip much harder than normal pliers. They've also taken about 8 years of abuse and other than the chrome peeling off the jaw surface, they're like new.
Grim's must be faulty.
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i use mine all the time , amazing amount of force /grip on them , also handy to flatten a kinked edge on a flat panel etc , okay id pick up a correct fitting socket or spanner first but theyre good for pliers
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I've got these,
Well abused and used!
I also have any other pair I bought from an autojumble for a few quid that I think are fake! They look exactly like the real ones but put next to each other they are fatter all round , maybe to make up for the lower quality metal??
Where did you get yours from?
Well abused and used!
I also have any other pair I bought from an autojumble for a few quid that I think are fake! They look exactly like the real ones but put next to each other they are fatter all round , maybe to make up for the lower quality metal??
Where did you get yours from?
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Depends on your Industry.
I'd take a pair of them to strip aircraft hydraulic unions over a set of bahco or tray full of spanners.
They are also super handy in the wirkshop for all the various fasteners on the lathe and mill.
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I have a full set of those pliers wrench and I agree they are very handy, especially when you don't want to damage the fastener, i.e. chrome plated etc as they have no teeth digging in.
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Yep please do. Ive some small lindstrom I use when Im glazing , but Ill be keen to see what else is out there ,,, but it will no doubt just get expensive .
