Cycle Superhighway; even the cyclists don't want it.....

[Gareth J]

I used to cycle in London, the cycle superhighways are great if you're a bit nervous or not in a rush. However, I also rode a motorbike a lot and always felt more comfortable overtaking cars when on pushbike facing oncoming (as opposed to undertaking in the cycle lane) traffic, like you would on a motorbike. It is much harder to minimise the dangers when undertaking. As for overtaking cyclists on a main road around corners where there's a double white line, I don't blame the two abreast cyclists, you should be out into the other cariagway to overtake them safely anyway, unless they're going super slow and you can make the manouver at very low speed.

 

[pedrobedro]

We don't have many cycle lanes round here and I do ride a bicycle for health and leisure and it does bug me when cars overtake me on the busy main road and nearly brush my arm with the wing mirror. They seem to expect you to ride in the gutter where the drain lids jolt you and all the sharp crap gets swept to give you punctures or to ride on the pavement which is as far as I'm concerned still an offence and dangerous to pedestrians unless marked for cyclists. I drive and ride a motorbike as well, not all at the same time and have been a driver over 40 years and I think it's time some drivers were educated to realise that they are not the most important thing in the world and if they want to get somewhere on time set off earlier dummy.

 

[Paul G]

60% of the problem is that these schemes are designed by non-cyclists,
and the other 50% is that each group doesn't see the other groups view.

 

[Wendelspanswick]

because some cyclists are a pack of pricks and ride side by side round bends where theres double white lines and no one can overtake them .i just blast me horn and cut in on them

From the Highway Code.
129
Double white lines where the line nearest you is solid. This means you MUST NOT cross or straddle it unless it is safe and you need to enter adjoining premises or a side road. You may cross the line if necessary, provided the road is clear, to pass a stationary vehicle, or overtake a pedal cycle, horse or road maintenance vehicle, if they are travelling at 10 mph (16 km/h) or less.
Laws RTA 1988 sect 36 & TSRGD regs 10 & 26

 

[brightspark]

From the Highway Code.
129
Double white lines where the line nearest you is solid. This means you MUST NOT cross or straddle it unless it is safe and you need to enter adjoining premises or a side road. You may cross the line if necessary, provided the road is clear, to pass a stationary vehicle, or overtake a pedal cycle, horse or road maintenance vehicle, if they are travelling at 10 mph (16 km/h) or less.
Laws RTA 1988 sect 36 & TSRGD regs 10 & 26

all well and good but would u want to pass 20 cyclists 2 abreast on a main road and cross white lines on blind bends with wagons coming the other way at speed no thanks i havent got a death wish 1 cycle yes 2 abreast no

 

[dunk]

cyclists do get a lot of verbal when a post like this comes up, but has already been said there not all ignorant donkeys who think the road is theirs, this applies to vehicle drivers as well, but, there is another small crowd out there that very rarely get mentioned and thats the kamikaze mobility scooter rider, this last week i`ve had two near misses with these things just coming onto the road from the pavement with out any thought to who may be driving towards them, then on another day i nearly got shinned by some old girl who just puts it in reverse and backs up without looking, not a sorry, kiss my ar**, nothing, just a glare that says get out of my way, i thought these things had reverse sensors on them that stops the scooter reversing to close to some one behind them, mind you if they dont give a monkeys when going forward then reversing aint going to worry them, saying all this though its the same situ as vehicle drivers and cyclists, its a small minority that gives the group a bad name

 

[jordan1]

because some cyclists are a pack of pricks and ride side by side round bends where theres double white lines and no one can overtake them .i just blast me horn and cut in on them

because some cyclists are a pack of pricks and ride side by side round bends where theres double white lines and no one can overtake them .i just blast me horn and cut in on them

Quite right,only last week we were on B road to Scarborough, came across a group of cyclists riding two and 3 abreast, unfortunately on long continuous double white lines, pipped hoping they would pull over, not a chance. Further up the road I stopped to have words, all I got was 'you motorists think you own the fu**ing road'. These were mainly mature men and women. Want running down.

 

[Kayos]

Quite right,only last week we were on B road to Scarborough, came across a group of cyclists riding two and 3 abreast, unfortunately on long continuous double white lines, pipped hoping they would pull over, not a chance. Further up the road I stopped to have words, all I got was 'you motorists think you own the fu**ing road'. These were mainly mature men and women. Want running down.

So the motorist following the rules and not crossing the white line is in the wrong, but them slowly taking up the whole road makes them right?

They should have to take a test and buy insurance to use the roads, but doubt it will happen

 

[Gritineye]

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=750020415107833

 

[Paul G]

Club cyclists believe that it's easier for a car to pass a group, say three wide by three long, than it would be
to pass a strung out 9 in single file.

I am not a club cyclist BTW as I couldn't find eight others that are as slow as me.

 

[500e]

Sorted then!
https://tfl.gov.uk/info-for/freight/safer-lorry-scheme

Heard a rumor that all lorry's will have to have window in lower portion of left hand door, & talk that 7.5 tonne max weight in central London.
I cycled for a large No of years to school work & with a club + time trialing never found motorists to aggressive, but the present crop of cyclists seem to think they have a right of way whatever, I think it is time we had compulsory insurance & some form of test, a few schools do cycle proficiency training good on them, but it is adults in the main that cycle.

 

[Pete.]

I cycled for a large No of years to school work & with a club + time trialing never found motorists to aggressive, but the present crop of cyclists seem to think they have a right of way whatever...

That's because they've become empowered by the idea that because they are the most vulnerable road users anything that happens is someone else's fault. They had precious little accountability before and it's getting less and less all the while.

 

[dunk]

surely there is something wrong here with all these regs and fitments having to be provided by the haulage / transport companies, all these additions are not cheap, and to top it the fines for none compliance are stupidly high. no matter what regs or fitments are forced, the fact remains that there will be idiot cyclists who still get squashed run over or mangled through there own fault and stupidity.
some fair field playing needs to be brought in here like what has been said already, test, insurance, all day bright lights, high viz jackets, gloves, helmets, plus a none compliance with this and the cyclists gets fined £1000, this may start to change the attitude of some cyclists, but i bet that if prices in shops start to rise because of all these mods to trucks these carefree cyclists will be the first to moan.
the fact that the mods to vehicles is only to apply to plus 3.5t goods vehicles makes me think we will be seeing many more vans on london roads in the future adding to the traffic problem even more

 

[dannyp]

i heard somewhere ( not sure if it's true or not tho ) that any inciedent between a cycelist and a motor veichel it is allways presumed to be the motorists fault as they are the one with the insurance to pay to clean the mess up.

personaly if there are a group of cycelists been nobs, to overtake them at a sensible speed about 3 gears to high in a sooty vw tdi

 

[CRB]

In the Netherlands, I think. It is supposed to make sure that drivers look for cyclists. However, since they have been brought up on bicycles it is already engrained.

 

[Robotstar5]

The country lanes by me can be a nightmare at weekends when the cycling clubs are out, there can be groups of 20+ but when you get to a straight piece of road to overtake they will put out a couple of "outriders" onto the wrong side of the road to stop cars overtaking the group

 

[brightspark]

The country lanes by me can be a nightmare at weekends when the cycling clubs are out, there can be groups of 20+ but when you get to a straight piece of road to overtake they will put out a couple of "outriders" onto the wrong side of the road to stop cars overtaking the group

a big bag of half inch clout nails flung across the road will sort them a guy up the road from me flies out of his drive and nearly run me and my dog over 4 timesi sprinkled a load of them outside twice in 2 weeks he now goes slow and looks

 

[Kayos]

Same this morning, 4 seperate cyclists on the road NEXT TO THE FINISHED CYCLE SUPERHIGHWAY.

and they wonder why they get stick