Nothing that's the point!
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Nothing that's the point!
brightspark
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test the main lead in to puter otherwise u would have to take the cover of puter and clip the earth clamp on to the chassis inside 
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Do they log all the asset numbers and keep a record of the test results to show to the insurance company in the event of an accident or fire?.
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On looking at the internet a few months ago there is no law to say you have to have your stuff tested in a work place it's just "good practise " is this right it looks to me it's just a way of company's getting money for near nothing
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Generally the testing is a good thing with 2 problems,
1 the way the services is sold( by the large majority)
2 how companies implement the service(often due to no real understanding)
I have a customer that is a typical example, they have a guy come in for about 2 days every year.
He goes round poking and prodding and sticking stickers on anything the runs on electric with a plug on. eg:- tablesaws and dust extractors all fixed equipment with fixed ducting.
A pat test is not the best test for this type of kit as lots of contactors switches and interconnected equipment.
However he also changes plugs and puts 'Not To Be Used' stickers on extension leads. These bit are either repaired or replaced.
The problem is alough doing this for years nobody has worked out that the fix equipment does not need testing just servicing and inspected by a competent person, however this process has not highlighted that hand tools and extension cables need testing and inspecting quarterly.
1 the way the services is sold( by the large majority)
2 how companies implement the service(often due to no real understanding)
I have a customer that is a typical example, they have a guy come in for about 2 days every year.
He goes round poking and prodding and sticking stickers on anything the runs on electric with a plug on. eg:- tablesaws and dust extractors all fixed equipment with fixed ducting.
A pat test is not the best test for this type of kit as lots of contactors switches and interconnected equipment.
However he also changes plugs and puts 'Not To Be Used' stickers on extension leads. These bit are either repaired or replaced.
The problem is alough doing this for years nobody has worked out that the fix equipment does not need testing just servicing and inspected by a competent person, however this process has not highlighted that hand tools and extension cables need testing and inspecting quarterly.
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Yes need inspecting but does it pat testing by law the only thing I can see it's takes so.e of the responsibility off the employer as if it has been tested and an accident occurs they they have proof of it being tested even if it does not need it by law they can say its been cheak at certain periods to defend them selfs and pass the blame but the pat test does only last as did e.g. a mot on a car 24 hours (I know there's more to this if a item snaps 2days today's time and it was rotten there is come back )
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Yes but a traditional PAT test is not the most appropriate test, in the example, all this elaborate test tells me is the earth has continuity between the earth pin in the 32a 3 phase plug and the case. Not that the cable is hanging half out of the motor and full of wood shavings.
The law simply requires an employer to ensure that their electrical equipment is maintained in order to prevent danger.
Often this requires something much more in-depth than a man with a little machine and a roll of labels.
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Not looked into it for a few years, but I thought ISITEE covered anything connected by a flexible cable these days, hardwired or plug-in?.
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It appears to be a big grey area full of contradictions and not many hard facts.
ISITEE = In-service Inspection and Testing of Electrical Equipment is issued by The Institution of Engineering and Technology not the HSE.
It's something I need to spend some time on again.
HSE documents basically fall back to "The Electricity at Work Regulations 1989" as the main ruling in that law simply requires an employer to ensure that their electrical equipment is maintained in order to prevent danger. There is no legal requirement to PAT test just to maintain, inspect and keep records.
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There never has been, just some insurance companies refuse cover unless equipment is tested
