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I think I've already exhausted that source of variably useful knowledge, but you never know, I may not have found them all, let this be a test..
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what you have to remember is aga, esse and rayburns are all rocket stoves in the first place
heres a post im aware of via permies
the original retrofitter
permies.com
just remember any top plate it will destroy it as the heat is too hot
the cast iron tops use flow rate of fire between the plate as it rushes through the system rocket stoves use a plate at top and really suffer badly fire brick top or a sacrificial top plate would be fine
heres a post im aware of via permies
the original retrofitter
4.3m² of isa in a single barrel? (rocket mass heater forum at permies)
By doing it this way! How long it would hold heat.
just remember any top plate it will destroy it as the heat is too hot
the cast iron tops use flow rate of fire between the plate as it rushes through the system rocket stoves use a plate at top and really suffer badly fire brick top or a sacrificial top plate would be fine
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but this time im not posting video links
are but griteneys been looking for other stuffI think I've already exhausted that source of variably useful knowledge, but you never know, I may not have found them all, let this be a test..
i only came across the above links whilst reviewing my own builds
on an edit what is the reason why you would convert it heating or cooking ? or both
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Both and to save money on coal, and heating water which might be a problem due to cooling the fire too much.
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I should really let you read the links
if i remember correctley it was fine for cooking and heating the oven but lost the heating side to it being behind the firebox at the rear of the unit
it all depends on the model you have and where its placed on the system
can you make another model, yes a diagram exists on those links for better explanation
if i remember correctley it was fine for cooking and heating the oven but lost the heating side to it being behind the firebox at the rear of the unit
it all depends on the model you have and where its placed on the system
can you make another model, yes a diagram exists on those links for better explanation
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whilst coal would give you the most heat and also the longest burn to a degree it kinda comes with an expense and also fumes with it
coal its been tried
whilst wood only heats up until it burns out usually 2-4hrs longer with hard wood
note if you do use coal with a rocket stove its seriously red hot
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Oh go on, you know you want tobut this time im not posting video links
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Cheaper to fuel, like free wood, and also just for the fun of it.
Just a feasibility study really, we only have the Rayburn in the kitchen living room and a wood stove in the lounge that's only lit at weekends.
Anthracite is about to become expensive or unobtainable.
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whilst i like the builds of the rocket stoves they have there issues
i can easily build a rocket stove hob and ovens just like the aga, esse and rayburn as you have to know how the flow works
the rayburn used flow below the top plate then across and to the flue whilst the oven raised a bar blocking the other top plate so it would flow around the oven in different patterns
its knowing how these was done and how best to run them for best clean out of these systems
the boiler was either internal and you can use 216 stainless steel boiler as shown with the google links or a rear firebox within them
or you can build 2 seperate systems and run it that way note theres no boiler design released and i havent released mine
i can easily build a rocket stove hob and ovens just like the aga, esse and rayburn as you have to know how the flow works
the rayburn used flow below the top plate then across and to the flue whilst the oven raised a bar blocking the other top plate so it would flow around the oven in different patterns
its knowing how these was done and how best to run them for best clean out of these systems
the boiler was either internal and you can use 216 stainless steel boiler as shown with the google links or a rear firebox within them
or you can build 2 seperate systems and run it that way note theres no boiler design released and i havent released mine
Is that just because everything is going up or because something is happening with supply? We've just shifted a solid fuel rayburn to install!
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Anthracite used to be affordable in Wales, wife used to bring bags back to Bristol, where it was twice as expensive for our Aga, yes, no error.
We only burn wood in our Rayburn, as over here, coal is stupid prices.
We used to get three large bunkers filled up each year and supplement with wood (this was at my parents where this Rayburn has migrated from). I was hoping to do the same here. I have a lot of wood too though. I am in Wales enough to pick some up if its still that much cheaper!
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Well admittedly I'm talking twenty years ago, when a bag of anthracite was £3.50 and my wife was younger, etc...
I've a gas Rayburn sitting in thé barn, glad I didn't install that, shame, perfect enamel, why do I own three Rayburns and an Aga, I ask myself ?
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Decent coal is becoming a major concern amongst the steam people. Another casualty of not being able to get cheap stuff from the east
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Last time I bought anthracite over here it was Russian and was damned expensive, obviously.
So I stopped, 15 years ago.
So I stopped, 15 years ago.
