Compressor fuse blowing

  1. Kevin Walker New Member

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    Morning,

    I have a sealey 1153b compressor which keeps blowing its fuse. Originally i thought it was the start capacitor so i replaced it first

    I then removed the belt and the motor runs perfect, as soon as the belt goes back on it trys to turn but then trips again. I checked the belt tension and pulleys and it doesnt appear to be too tight.

    Im stumped and any suggestions would be greatly appreciated


    Thanks
     
  2. The_Yellow_Ardvark

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    If the motor runs of load, eg no compressor attached, the motor seams ok.

    The load will be from the compressor, have you checked that out?
     
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  3. The_Yellow_Ardvark

    The_Yellow_Ardvark Member

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    Oh yes, welcome to the forum.
     
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  4. premmington

    premmington Member

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    Possible causes!

    1. Pump not unloading pressure - no soft start - this will be a hole out of the pressure switch.

    2. Pump siezed - try rotating by hand.

    3. Motor pooped - unlikely if it runs OK - albeit with no load.
     
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  5. Kevin Walker New Member

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    Thanks for the replies and the welcome.

    When i spin the pulley on the compressor itself it appears to turn no problem. Obviously not loose but feels just right with enough compression.

    Apologies for what may be a dumb question but when i turn the compressor pulley i hear a hiss from the pressure switch, is that normal? I did open the drain valve and output tap from the tank before starting when the belt was on and it still tripped.

    Thanks
     
  6. Kevin Walker New Member

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    Thanks premmington.

    How would i know if it wasnt unloading pressure? I get a hiss when i turn the compressor pulley by hand however did try to run the compressor with the drain valve and tap open.

    Thanks
     
  7. Ashley Burton

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    So does the motor run with the belt off?
     
  8. Kevin Walker New Member

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    Motor runs perfect with the belt off. Compressor turns by hand quite easily too
     
  9. 8ob

    8ob Forum Supporter

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    Could be a dodgy trip, try it on a different power circuit,

    Bob
     
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  10. Kevin Walker New Member

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    Hi Bob,

    I tried it in a different circuit just now and same tried to start again and then tripped

    Thanks
     
  11. The_Yellow_Ardvark

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    So you can say the supply is good. I guess that it ran great before, or is it new to you?
    What breaker size are you running it from?
    Can you throw up a picture of the motor plate, we have some good sparkies on here.

    If the supply to the motor is good and the motor is good. Then it must be down stream of it.

    Does the motor start and then blow?
    Or is it a switch on, bang and no power?

    Either way you have to start looking past the motor, switches on the compressor, the compressor.
    A Multi meter will be your friend.
     
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  12. julianf

    julianf Member

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    If you unload all the air from the tank before starting, does it start up fine?

    Then, once started, does it turn on and off on its own fine, when still warm?

    If "yes" to the above, it's fairly standard. Make sure it's not on an extension lead, and consider running off a 16a plug.
     
  13. 8ob

    8ob Forum Supporter

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    Here is the garb/ spec, does say minimum 13amp supply. Ordinary plug top may be marginal.

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    Model No. SAC1153B
    Compressor 150L Belt Drive 3hp with Cast Cylinders
    Promotion Price
    £649.95
    exc VAT

    £779.94
    inc VAT

    List Price
    £874.95 exc VAT
    £1049.94 inc VAT
    1x FREE Item included
    1x

    Compressor Oil 1L - Pack of 12

    Model No. CPO/1

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    This product is on Agricultural 2019/20


    Safety Data


    Instructions


    Parts Diagram

    We only provide documents for our current models on our website.
    If you require a parts diagram for a previous version please contact us on 01284 757505 or e-mail technical@sealey.co.uk.
    Air Displacement cfm(L/min):

    13.4(380)

    Maximum Free Air Delivery cfm(L/min):

    8.8(249)

    Maximum Pressure:

    145psi(10bar)

    Minimum Rated Supply:

    13A

    Motor Output:

    3hp

    Nett Weight:

    78kg

    Outlet:

    1/2"BSP Female Tap

    Phase:

    1ph

    Receiver Capacity:

    150L

    Size (W x D x H):

    1320 x 400 x 820mm

    Speed:

    1630rpm

    Supply:

    230V
     
  14. slimjim Member

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    My compressor did this a few years ago, I replaced the start capacitor and it still did it, so I bought a slightly higher rated one and it’s worked fine ever since,

    Don’t know if that’s your problem, but it worked for me
     
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  15. GrahamGKD

    GrahamGKD Forum Supporter

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    Is it the fuse in the 13A plug which is blowing or the MCB at the consumer unit? Is the problem a cold weather thing? I used to have trouble starting my compressor in the winter (when the oil is cold and more viscous). I now have a 16A circuit with a dedicated C curve MCB and that works fine.
     
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  16. bletchmonster

    bletchmonster Member

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    As suggested above, faulty capacitor is quite likely. Also check all the connections (Inc capacitor) in motor Junction box. Constant vibration and thermal loading tends to loosen the joints.
     
  17. brightspark

    brightspark Member

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    has it ever run ok on a 13 amp fuse or is it on a mcb
     
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  18. R-D-R Forum Supporter

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    Have you tried disconnecting the thin air pipe from the unloader valve? if the unloader valve or the pressure switch is faulty there could be high pressure stuck between the pump and the tank making it difficult to get upto speed.
     
  19. brightspark

    brightspark Member

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    that wont matter if its blowing fuses starting with an empty tank only under load it will
     
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  20. R-D-R Forum Supporter

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    Was thinking if the unloader valve is faulty it may be jammed shut causing the motor to trip even if the tank pressure is low.

    guess easy way to check is disconnect compressor from valve and see if it fires up.
     
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