Chroming Regulations

[Kram]

You mean the ABS linked system? I think you’re confusing it with the Honda linked system which was ridiculed by nearly every Motorcycle Journalists when they tested it but hey don’t that stop you do a bit of EU bashing...

No I am not confusing it, Im unaware of the Honda system. Eu was trying to bring in a whole load of regulations at the time under (EU) 168/2013, to kill off motorcycles and some got through. Manufacturers were given the choice of ABS or non ABS but linked brakes for small bikes. Bosch were one of the knly suppliera of bike abs units and there was extensive lobbying to force it through. The latter is dangerous in poor conditions, even the best ABS systems were not great in poor weather when I was reading reviews. Combined brakes work well on cars but not on bikes.
There was also regulations to limit home servicing and prevent any modifications, you wouldnt be allowed to swap chain or change sprocket sizes yourself.

Regulation (EU) No 168/2013

Regulation (EU) No 168/2013 of the European Parliament and of the Council of 15 January 2013 On the approval and market surveillance of two- or three-wheel ...

lexparency.org

 

[dobbslc]

Oh yes, I remember Martin BangeMann alright... Tried to get motorcycles banned altogether but he couldn’t get the support he needed. The same with the wide fairing for legs, and restricted power but again he didn’t succeed.

They are restricted to 100bhp on bikes though! Plus all the above ^
Bringing the thread slightly back to chrome though, how will they make fork legs? And it'll be the end for Harley riders without all the shiny ****e!

 

[Bornfree]

what about hyd ram rods?

 

[daleyd]

Here is your starter for ten

8 items at 11 shillings and 5d and one for half a crown. How many 10 bob notes will I need and how much change do I get?

A bushel?

 

[overload]

No I am not confusing it, Im unaware of the Honda system. Eu was trying to bring in a whole load of regulations at the time under (EU) 168/2013, to kill off motorcycles and some got through. Manufacturers were given the choice of ABS or non ABS but linked brakes for small bikes. Bosch were one of the knly suppliera of bike abs units and there was extensive lobbying to force it through. The latter is dangerous in poor conditions, even the best ABS systems were not great in poor weather when I was reading reviews. Combined brakes work well on cars but not on bikes.
There was also regulations to limit home servicing and prevent any modifications, you wouldnt be allowed to swap chain or change sprocket sizes yourself.

Regulation (EU) No 168/2013

Regulation (EU) No 168/2013 of the European Parliament and of the Council of 15 January 2013 On the approval and market surveillance of two- or three-wheel ...

lexparency.org

You sound like someone who has never tried ABS on a motorcycle and is just willing to go along with the naysayers.
I have ABS on my KTM 790 Duke and I can’t fault it. The system won’t kick in unless you are really braking hard almost like deliberately trying to lock the front up. Even better, I can turn it off and ride it as tho it never had ABS yet the choice is there.

Sometimes the human population need to have something imposed on them whether they like it or not.... Seat belts, Helmets etc come to mind.

 

[ronan]

They are restricted to 100bhp on bikes though! Plus all the above ^
Bringing the thread slightly back to chrome though, how will they make fork legs? And it'll be the end for Harley riders without all the shiny ****e!

Vacuum deposition ? I know its used for things like coatings on milling cutters and the like. Could be expensive though.

 

[Kram]

You sound like someone who has never tried ABS on a motorcycle and is just willing to go along with the naysayers.
I have ABS on my KTM 790 Duke and I can’t fault it. The system won’t kick in unless you are really braking hard almost like deliberately trying to lock the front up. Even better, I can turn it off and ride it as tho it never had ABS yet the choice is there.

Sometimes the human population need to have something imposed on them whether they like it or not.... Seat belts, Helmets etc come to mind.

You havent got a clue and miss the point entirely. Abs was around before the regulation and was becoming common, so that part has not really changed uotake of abs systems. I have ridden abs.
What about the learners on cheaper 125's that are now can only get them with mechanically combined braking systems, that can not be turned off? Not the nicest thing to force on the least experienced riders, who are more likely to be riding in the worst conditions.
EU is not doing it for safety.

 

[overload]

You havent got a clue and miss the point entirely. Abs was around before the regulation and was becoming common, so that part has not really changed uotake of abs systems. I have ridden abs.
What about the learners on cheaper 125's that are now can only get them with mechanically combined braking systems, that can not be turned off? Not the nicest thing to force on the least experienced riders, who are more likely to be riding in the worst conditions.
EU is not doing it for safety.

I haven’t got a clue? That is funny!

May as well just have agree to disagree on the subject.

 

[zeppelin builder]

Speaking with one of my customers the other day that had hundreds of parts chromed a year, from next year, general chrome platers are going to be forced to use trivalent-chrome. Apparently, in trials run by their platers two years ago, it's is absolutely pants and no good for automotive parts let alone exhaust parts.

Hard chrome will be done away with in 2024. Bear in mind there is no cost effective, economical or environmentally friendly method to reproduce the properties of hardchrome. HVOF is touted as being as good, but it's 2-3x more expensive!

There's not much on the internet about it, it seems to be a European regulation.

Trivalent chromium - The substitute for hexavalent chromium

Trivalent chromium seems to impose itself as a substitute for hexavalent chromium, you have to get involved! 1st industrial pilot installed at Verbrugge.

www.verbrugge.fr

we will have to send to india or mexico
or make everything out stainless
i used london electroplaters in the past
exelent job

 

[stevethegrease]

Here is your starter for ten

8 items at 11 shillings and 5d and one for half a crown. How many 10 bob notes will I need and how much change do I get?

Well I make it £4/13/10 so ten 10 bob notes ( 5 quid) and you should see 6/2 change

 

[johnakay]

just had a message from my chrome plater.
and he said its not completely true.
he will explain to me next time I see him.