Welsh lamb used to cook its self from the prevailing winds
Only recently totally cleared for sale for consumption.
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Only recently totally cleared for sale for consumption.
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Very often the TV reports are made up by people who do a little browse about radiation and get it wrong.60 Fire fighters were initially sent in under orders that it was a "non" radioactive fire.
Most of them died within days due to significant exposure to high intensity alpha radiation
You can be exposed externally to unbelievable levels of alpha radiation and come to no harm other than a bit of skin reddening if the source comes into contact or very close indeed, it is the most dangerous form of radiation though if it enters the body through cuts or inhalation, masses of energy over a very short distance.
Gamma radiation was probably the one that saw them off, it has the strength to go right through the human body causing cell damage as it does so and the levels they were working in certainly did that...and fast.
We started to pick up the fall out on our perimeter monitors at Sellafield a few days after the disaster.
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http://www.salford.ac.uk/news/articles/2016/chernobyl-wildlife-study-named-uks-top-research
Dr. Mike Wood from the above is the source of any information I've provided.
But granted, both gamma and beta radiation emitted would have caused significant harm.
Especially considering the initial fire fighters had no radiation PPE, just standard fire fighting PPE, which would have been about as useful as a chocolate fire guard...
He's also visited Prypiat, which by all accounts is still an eerie ghost town...
There were photos on Facebook of the fun fair that was due to open around the time of the explosion, if it hadn't already...
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"Three mile island" is one that doesn't get talked about very much, nor does "Doomray"
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I have met the guy before, think it was at Lancaster Uni during an environment conference, also somewhere else but can't remember
, perhaps Sellafield.When we had a class of newbies we used to show them the radiation coming from our test sources and ask them what they would use to shield/protect themselves from the various types of radiation.
The alpha was the most fun, we would have suggestions of lead, steel, metre thick walls and more, they were amazed when we showed them a sheet of paper stopped alpha easily.
There is some amazing history around radiation and contamination harm and experiments, one of the worse was an American experiment where they injected several people with a radioactive source to see what happened to them over the years, the only problem was they never told them, pretending it was simply a normal vaccination to treat what they had attended hospital for.
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Just watched a pretty decent documentary about the dome structure that's recently been constructed over the Chernobyl reactor, detailing the construction and history etc.
Some pretty impressive stuff going on there, it's well worth a watch if your bored for an hour
Apparently the biggest/heaviest structure ever moved on land, 3x the weight of the Eiffel Tower
Just watched it, very interesting, cheers for that.
IIRC alpha is stopped by a sheet of paper or even a few inches or air, beta is stopped by aluminium sheet but it takes really thick concrete or lead to stop gamma rays.
Most people don't like nuclear power but it's possibly the best power source we have when you consider all the factors, the big problem is we aren't replacing old stations with newer designs. It's like saying cars are dangerous but rather than trying to improve them we force everybody to drive around in 100 year old Model T fords.
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Yep that's about it in a nutshell, it's more a case of alpha only travels a very short distance so air does not actually stop it, just a case of if you have a couple of inches of air between you and it then you have distance.
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i love programmes like this, engineering solutions on a massive scale, the 3d cad drawings of the frame work and how it all goes together, and the way they factor in everything (apart from barbed wire fences). the one thing that made me chuckle was the chap who said they will be removing the fuel rods with there new overhead crane and they will be moved to another location, i wonder who's problem they are going to end up.....
I read some where last week that it has the same danger level as Chernobyl but more people will die but it isn't reported on as much!
I'm shocked at some of the stuff about Chernobyl, I definitely need to watch it.
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I have had a few looks at street level in the past, nature soon reclaims the land when man leaves, I bet the driver of the google van had his foot down along those roads
.In the future I suspect google viewing will just show a vast forest with homes and roads hidden from view, some are nearly gone now.
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it doesn't take long for nature to take back what has been cleared . went up the end of my garden the other month and there's a 5ft tall oak tree growing haven't been up there in a few years
haven't been up there in a few yearsFound 2 jap snipers in mine still alive been hiding there since WW2it doesn't take long for nature to take back what has been cleared . went up the end of my garden the other month and there's a 5ft tall oak tree growing
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Makes a change from the old suffolk punch lawnmower, push bike frames and a landrover with the bonnet up !
