Cheap grinders

[slim_boy_fat]

Hmmmm......So you need to swap things over if you need a wire brush?

I need to stop being so lazy. The phrase "more money than sense" springs to mind. I DO have several of these 'though, so can swop hands......

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[Johnseat]

Think I'll opt for the blue Bosche grinder as they've got a good reputation on here.
I'm not a serious fabricator, just a home hobby fabricator so my grinders won't be getting abused as such.
Off to screw fix today after the youngest ones christening.

 

[Bill Edwards]

I need to stop being so lazy. The phrase "more money than sense" springs to mind. I DO have several of these 'though, so can swop hands......

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Hmm, ever tried a wire knot wheel in a grinder?
I reckon 3 seconds with one of those can remove more rust, paint or slag than 20 minutes with a hand brush. They are seriously effective.

 

[PhillipM]

Not to mention fingerprints, eyeballs, and half your overalls.

 

[jordan1]

Was in home base this morning, bought a couple of their budget angle grinders for £8.97 each ! Just in case anyone is passing, seemed cheap to me !

I bought a cheap one years ago, nearly shook my bench to pieces. Took it back and changed it for a Makita, smooth as silk in comparison. You get what you pay for as usual.

 

[jordan1]

Think I'll opt for the blue Bosche grinder as they've got a good reputation on here.
I'm not a serious fabricator, just a home hobby fabricator so my grinders won't be getting abused as such.
Off to screw fix today after the youngest ones christening.

Have a look at a Makita 9308 or equivalent, excellent machine.

 

[Johnseat]

The 9308 is a bench grinder?

 

[ukracer]

I have always used makita, I have two on the go at the moment. I had a brand new spare I'd stashed away, when I damaged the flex of one of them, I got the new one out and to my surprise it was duff. Makes a horrid noise and only turns slowly. I have no idea what has happened to the receipt so I dismantled it and started swapping bits over - it seems to be a problem with the gubbins in the body as the spinny bit works fine in the other one. Ended up making one out of two but still suprised that it was a duffer from new.

My makita virated from new it was not until I got some B a q cheepos is I realised how bad. Lol

 

[ukracer]

I use to kill cheap grinders so stopped buying them as it was a false economy for me.

I am working on the principle I needed more grinders so I git so band q cheepos at 8 quid total cost 32 quid. Then as they break I can replace them with better machines but I could not afford 140 quid in one go but with good special offers TK be had for 25 to 35 quid I can get one of two if I see up a bit each week...I can still use the cheepos though till they die.

 

[Burdekin]

I am working on the principle I needed more grinders so I git so band q cheepos at 8 quid total cost 32 quid. Then as they break I can replace them with better machines but I could not afford 140 quid in one go but with good special offers TK be had for 25 to 35 quid I can get one of two if I see up a bit each week...I can still use the cheepos though till they die.

No worries. I have plenty of cheap power tools, I'm just hard on grinders and I kill them pretty quickly was all I meant.

I still have a £20 B&Q circular saw that's done so much work that it should have died years ago but is still going strong.

 

[Robotstar5]

I still have a £20 B&Q circular saw that's done so much work that it should have died years ago but is still going strong.

I bought the "Performance Power" own brand saw hoping it would last long enough to finish cutting wood to board out the loft, it's still going fine 15 years later and I still haven't used the spare blade or brushes that came with it!

 

[V6BOY]

I got given a unbranded grinder 10 years ago was well used when I got it, I even opened it up to find what brand it was but all blank. Not got Hugh power but it's OK and had fair bit of stick.

 

[Peloquin]

I bought the "Performance Power" own brand saw hoping it would last long enough to finish cutting wood to board out the loft, it's still going fine 15 years later and I still haven't used the spare blade or brushes that came with it!

I had the PP percussion drill. Wasn't the most powerful but did everything I ever asked of it. Had it for years then let my mate borrow it.
He dropped it and couldn't get it to work so just binned it.
I ended up buying a big sds hammer /drill thing instead that's been useful but I think I need another, lighter drill again now.

 

[slim_boy_fat]

Hmm, ever tried a wire knot wheel in a grinder?
I reckon 3 seconds with one of those can remove more rust, paint or slag than 20 minutes with a hand brush. They are seriously effective.

Aye, I have one of those too, also a couple of cup wire brushes. Just don't have enough grinders for them all.......

 

[Wallace]

Hope the ones you pick up from B&Q are better than the one I bought, the spindle nut was tapped off square and vibrated like mad. Took it back to exchange and they were all like it so I repaired it myself. It's the one that gets the least use now as it's also very rough and noisy, only bought it as the body size was small to access the job I was on.

 

[Bill Edwards]

Not to mention fingerprints, eyeballs, and half your overalls.

Oh yes.
Wire wheels of any kind in an angle grinder is the only power tool I'm not comfortable with. Chainsaws, slitting disks etc I'm content with, but those wire bristles get everywhere.

 

[Farside]

Oh yes.
Wire wheels of any kind in an angle grinder is the only power tool I'm not comfortable with. Chainsaws, slitting disks etc I'm content with, but those wire bristles get everywhere.

I discovered that, too. Now I only use wire wheels on the speed controlled grinders.

 

[AdrianH]

My next angle grinder has to be a variable speed for that reason, I think the major issue with the safety of using cups is most do not look at the max speed of them as it is usually a lot less then 10-11,000 rpm.

A small cup I have is around 7,000 and a larger one is around 5,000. so they have not had a lot of use to date.

Adrian

 

[Barking Mat]

Makita, Metabo I rate, the brushes died on the works one the other day, and whilst awaiting delivery had to go buy a cheapie (not actually cheap 70 euros), black and decker, which for me used to be a decent brand, and the moment you start it up you can tell from the vibration of the motor its just not the same quality. Bosch blue Ok, but with Makita at MMart for 40 quid I seem to remember, anything else is false economy, and your hand vibrating can be saved.

 

[pedrobedro]

My 125mm Metabo is variable speed and has an easy adjust guard as well as the safety NVR switch and tool free disc change, it's a brilliant tool. I have a 9" Metabo as well with soft start and rotating handle and they have a dust proof motor with the biggest carbon brushes I have ever seen in a hand tool, they are bigger than the ones in our washing machine motor, like a big liquorice allsort.