CE Marking....Fabricators

[Welderpaul]

Have any of you come across this yet. Time is ticking and there looks like a lot to do

 

[Engineer1964]

Yeah i found out about it a few months back. Its mainly quality control, site visits, acurate record keeping, welding inspections, conformances and non conformances. Still havn't found out where it says its going to be enforced or become law? Found this also

http://www.tatasteelconstruction.co...ibrary/Signs/SN32_022009_steel_structures.pdf

I think its just to keep track of quality and ensuring welders and their welds are upto a good enough standard

 

[penfold]

So it doesn't do anything that isn't already comprehensively covered by BS5750 or ISO9000? What an utter waste of everyone's time and money. Way to go EU, make everyone in europe less competitive against the rest of the world.

 

[TechnicAl]

http://www.steelconstruction.org/resources/technical/technical-ce-marking.html

Are you talking about something else, otherwise, its been on the go for a while but only for structural steelwork

 

[Welderpaul]

Yes, same thing Al. I must be honest and didnt know about it until i recently subscribed to a couple of forums for BCSA.

It isnt mandatory yet, but not far off.

Unfortunately we will need to do it. About 40% of our work is structural steelwork. The big boys we work for will no doubt be aware of it and asking to see compliance.

You any thoughts on it oh wise man Al

 

[madkayaker]

Could just do what the box movers on eBay do and get a roll of stickers!

 

[theoss]

One of the things, along with part P (not qualifications, just shelling cash out to be in a club) that closed my business down. I was doing automatic gates and a few years ago measurment of operating force began to be expected, 2 grand for the machine. Not too terrible though if yourworking to businesses and can lock them into a service contract- but for me, hopeless!

 

[Lewis Medlock]

One of the things, along with part P (not qualifications, just shelling cash out to be in a club) that closed my business down. I was doing automatic gates and a few years ago measurment of operating force began to be expected, 2 grand for the machine. Not too terrible though if yourworking to businesses and can lock them into a service contract- but for me, hopeless!

Auto gates need CE marking as well according to the course I did a few months ago.

 

[theoss]

Auto gates need CE marking as well according to the course I did a few months ago.

exactly... hence the requirement for force measurement... seven years of experience with this **** has now gone down the pan.

 

[snowcat]

Yes, same thing Al. I must be honest and didnt know about it until i recently subscribed to a couple of forums for BCSA.

It isnt mandatory yet, but not far off.

Unfortunately we will need to do it. About 40% of our work is structural steelwork. The big boys we work for will no doubt be aware of it and asking to see compliance.

You any thoughts on it oh wise man Al

Paul, CE marking is a code of practice, so basically no more than a signature to say that the product you have produced has been produced to within the guidelines set out.

The machinery that I have produced have become subject to CE markings, most of the guidelines for that concentrate on electrical issues, guards and decals, little about build quality.

Id imagine within the structural guidelines, You would have to do little more than you do already, IE have systems in place to inspect, and provide proof if necessary that firstly the product is produced to a correct standard (as set out) and all staff have the correct knowledge and training to do so.

Training can be anything from a toolbox talk to a formal classroom test situation, and inspection could be visual right to Xray. Its what you deem is needed for your organization or job.

 

[steve.h]

So do normal garden gates and railings come under this ??

 

[snowcat]

So do normal garden gates and railings come under this ??

I'm guessing it would depend on the numbers sold, but probably not. As I said most of it is about harmonization of products.

 

[Welderpaul]

Its structural steelwork that it covers at the moment, so gates and railings wouldnt need to be marked.
I'm sure the category of 'structural steelwork' will have some very hazy edges as needs be.

 

[Engineer1964]

Any Idea Snowcat when its likely to become Law?? and whats the miniumum amount a company has to fork out for compliance with this??

 

[Welderpaul]

I can't find where i saw it originally, but its been optional for a good while, becomes law (!) early next year.

 

[snowcat]

Any Idea Snowcat when its likely to become Law?? and whats the miniumum amount a company has to fork out for compliance with this??

You should be able to meet all the compliance without any cost only time, no doubt as always there will be firms who will be trying to make a fast buck from this.

When it becomes mandatory like machinery, the HSE will set the guidelines out to follow. Here
As I said most decent fabricators will already be working ABOVE the guidelines, and in all honesty the Minimum standards of a CE mark are pretty pony.

 

[Engineer1964]

You should be able to meet all the compliance without any cost only time, no doubt as always there will be firms who will be trying to make a fast buck from this.

When it becomes mandatory like machinery, the HSE will set the guidelines out to follow. Here
As I said most decent fabricators will already be working ABOVE the guidelines, and in all honesty the Minimum standards of a CE mark are pretty pony.

Cheers for that