Who is phasing it out?
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That and it does seem to somewhat obstruct the headlight . . .
There just isn't the call for conversions any more, so less and less LPG powered cars on the road as old ones get scrapped. The knock on effect is that forecourts aren't selling enough to justify keeping the facility going.
As for filling from cylinders, just don't. You need a high pressure pump, the cylinder has to be inverted to pump out the liquid which drags all the oil (heavy ends) and other crap with it, and it's not legal due to the road fuel duty not having been paid. And you need a lot, depending on your usage. LPG has a lower calorific value than petrol so you use more, but as an easy calculation work on 2 litres per KG of Propane, so a 47 kilo cylinder will give you 94 litres, or 20 ish gallons. On that patrol, expect no more than 15 MPG, which is 300 miles a cylinder. Or less if towing a boat. You'll need a few cylinders knocking around, and then getting them refilled is another matter.
If you can find someone local-ish who does the fitting and servicing they will probably have the gas on pump, but don't expect the major forecourts to keep it much longer. If you do strike lucky then fair enough.
Or buy a tank, skid and pump for home. But you'll soon see how expensive that gets.
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I am glad the LPG thing is over. I hated fitting kits - hate working on anything LPG.
LPG is still big in Poland/Latvia/Lithuania - Turkey is the worlds biggest consumer of LPG Autogas
"In Turkey, the number of LPG vehicles in operation is close to 5 million. And it is expected that the use of Autogas vehicles increases by 50% if a change in the legislation -result of the work carried out by the Ministry of Environment and Urbanization and the Ministry of Industry and Technology- takes place: the amendment involves the access to parking garages and the reduction of Motor Vehicle Tax (MTV) for LPG vehicles."
But in the UK Autogas now only meets just 0.2% of the country's road-fuel needs - where in Poland it is still 14.37%
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Google will help you there.
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I did Google it and can't see solid evidence relating to scaling back LPG use in cars
I have an LPG S class so I guess I need to get that car back on the road and get some use out of it.
I did see LPG House boilers are being done away with but couldn't see anything relating to government reducing LPG at pumps if someone can point me in the right direction?
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Shell closed from 2020
https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/industry/shell-axes-lpg-offering-uk-due-low-demand
MFG has told the CMA it will close down its pumps by 2024 - see point 6. Google that and there are a couple of news articles on it, which is what I assume this thread is about
https://assets.publishing.service.g...bdd2bce/CDR_Morrisons_-_Decision_Summary_.pdf
https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/industry/shell-axes-lpg-offering-uk-due-low-demand
MFG has told the CMA it will close down its pumps by 2024 - see point 6. Google that and there are a couple of news articles on it, which is what I assume this thread is about
https://assets.publishing.service.g...bdd2bce/CDR_Morrisons_-_Decision_Summary_.pdf
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Thanks for that which clarifies it for me somewhat.
That RETAILERS are replacing the LPG with Electric chargers.
Which is ironic as I did Petroleum Licensing for many years and Petrol Companies would have laughed for weeks at the very suggestion of an EV charger in their premises.
That will entail alot of certification with ATEC ratings and explosive zones etc.
Anyway, in NI we don't have alot of those larger branded filling stations. Many places that currently have LPG pumps are smaller family owned stations. I do not think they will be doing away with their LPG Pumps anytime soon....
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So if the government are doing away with LPG and oil for domestic heating WTF is everyone going to heat their house with in the nearish future?
The idiot's in power are also banning gas boilers from 2030 something in new builds so what are we going to do???
I've got a log burner and live in a forest so I'll be ok until it looks like Easter Island round here!
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The Governments attitude to LPG in this country has always annoyed me.
It could have been used as a cleaner alternative to petrol, a sort of halfway house but they refused to encourage its use, probably because of the lower duty on it Now Dacia are pushing for its use by selling a good factory made bi-fuel range of vehicles, I believe the first manufacturer to do so they are allowing it to be removed from forecourts even though it still has a future.
Lets face it, removing an LPG tank isn't going to free up that much space for an EV so pretty pointless really when that LPG if encouraged could clean up emissions from a huge amount of petrol vehicles.
It could have been used as a cleaner alternative to petrol, a sort of halfway house but they refused to encourage its use, probably because of the lower duty on it Now Dacia are pushing for its use by selling a good factory made bi-fuel range of vehicles, I believe the first manufacturer to do so they are allowing it to be removed from forecourts even though it still has a future.
Lets face it, removing an LPG tank isn't going to free up that much space for an EV so pretty pointless really when that LPG if encouraged could clean up emissions from a huge amount of petrol vehicles.
I used it because it was cheaper. Yes it's cleaner, but not massively so. If they (the gment) weren't going to promote it 10 yrs ago thye're not likely to now - theyd rather it gets flared off at the refineries...
**** for brains..
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Dacia sell bi fuel in the UK, wonder how many they sell?
www.dacia.co.uk
Dacia Bi-fuel: Our LPG vehicles - Dacia UK
Find out everything you need to know about LPG and discover Dacia Bi-fuel. How LPG works, its advantages, and the range of Dacia Bi-fuel vehicles.
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Dacia seem to sell more than a few in South Wales. The sister in law has one, two of her neighbours have them and a friend has one as well.
They sell enough that the friend had to wait a fair few months for hers to be delivered due to parts shortages.
They sell enough that the friend had to wait a fair few months for hers to be delivered due to parts shortages.
A friend of mine lives in Taunton and runs LPG, Sainsburys Taunton was the cheapest anywhere but they've stopped doing now. They something like 65p/L at the end
