Can't believe what I've come home to!

[Bsmith]

I hauled my record 36 vice out from under the bench tonight.

Johnseat, I'm after a big favour (if you hav'nt bolted yours to a bench yet).

Could you please tell me if there is a guide of some sort or like whats in the photo underneath for the half-nut sliding in?
Thank you for your help.

 

[Dieselman 63]

There should be a piece of flat bar, maybe 20x3x300mm?

 

[Dieselman 63]

This listing has good pictures of what I mean. 34/35/36 are the same series just scaled up in size. http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/RECORD-No...uick-release-thread-bar-and-nut-/201618356851

 

[Bsmith]

Thanks Diesel, no, more like the part that is sorta U bent with elongated holes in the ends as in the photo I uploaded. I'm almost sure this part is missing from my vice, it's the way it came as a gift but no good as it is because when you tighten it goes 'bang' and what should be in the jaws lands on the floor. got wise to moving my feet fast.

 

[Dieselman 63]

I believe that U piece you're talking about is from a wood vice, probably a 52E or something. I'm linking some photos of what the arrangement should look like. It's very simple. This is a Record 36, and it looks like the guide was cast.

But then here on another one in the series, there's just a piece of flat bar screwed on:

http://madmodder.net/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=8780.0;attach=13112;image

I had a wood vice with a similar arrangement.

Are the quick release versions Acme or Buttress thread?

 

[Bsmith]

Yea, they look the same as mine I dont think there is any flat bar screwed on mine. Photo soon...... Thanks again.

 

[Dieselman 63]

No problem mate, glad to help where I can

 

[Johnseat]

I'll get photos of the mechanism for you to get.

 

[Johnseat]

I'll get photos of the mechanism tonight.

 

[Bsmith]

Your right Diesel, there has never been any other part there, recon my half nut is U/S then although it's threads looks orite.

 

[Bsmith]

Better photo of the release bar engaged in the half nut stem. I built up the bottom of the half nut stem groove a bit some time ago thinking that it was too loose. Didn't help me any.

 

[Dieselman 63]

Have you tried looking at the washers on the screw? It could be out of alignment, there should be a brass one at the front that could be worn down making it jump.

 

[Bsmith]

I did'nt see any washers on the screw, I'll check next time I'm at the shed.

 

[Johnseat]

Here's the promised pictures.

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[Bsmith]

Thank you very much Johnseat, just the same as mine only mine looks to have had a lot more use. Think all that is for it is a new half nut or a screw and nut from another vice.

 

[Bsmith]

Have you tried looking at the washers on the screw? It could be out of alignment, there should be a brass one at the front that could be worn down making it jump.

Should there be a brass bush through the front screw hole?

 

[Dieselman 63]

Interesting - mine is Acme thread, I didn't know the qr ones were Buttress. Makes sense now, that popping is one of the threads jumping back. I can't find a pic of the washer, only of it on the screw. There is no bush because the screw should be supported at the end of the case slide with the taper pin through it. It should be absolutely tight so you're only just able to get the taper pin through the locking ring and through the screw. This is the only photo I have, pre restoration The brass washer is still on the screw, and the locking ring is on the concrete

 

[Bsmith]

Yep the qr has a tapered thread, the screw is held in the vice by 2 screws in the cover near the handle(as in Johnseat's photo), there is a collar on the screw there. No tapered pin through the other end.

 

[KemppiFrog]

I have a Record wood vice (quick release) and the bits in post#21 look similar. I was short a few bits and contacted Record via Axminster. They said I should buy a fresh vice as the cost of the bits was close. Thank you, but I like the original and I will take the proper bits. Natch, I have barely used it since, but it and my Record No. 8 were free in the first place, sort of. Bloke turned up with big plans and asked me to fab up a big work bench to mount the vices on. I did, but he never came back.
KF

 

[Austin]

these are what i found while cleaning out old shed record no1 record no 55 wood vice and the small one ?