BIG (ish) trailer biuld

[J.B. Welding]

The closest I have come to a job like this is a horse box on a 7.5tonner with living quarters-that was pretty agricultural in comparison to these though! I like the idea of the 5th wheel Iveco, as a camper I guess it doesn't need testing like a +3.5 ton van, but if I got one for work/play and towed my goods around on a flatbed would I need to have the taco running and be tested every quarter?
Im always interested in ways to multi use vehicles and dislike campers because you can't really throw a ton of tools in them and put lengths of steel on the roof, and they need mot'd, taxed etc. A 5th wheeler could prove a useful conversion to any old 6.5 ton tipper or flatty. Very interesting to see how you get on-just remember to use plenty of plastic washers on any steel to alloy fixings to stop corrosion. Good luck and have fun-get a vision and run with it! (Maybe use your savings to buy a GRP front end-probably will appreciate your conversion more than it costs?)

 

[Baloo]

plastic washers are a good point as l will be bolting a steel frame to the ally trailer, just found a washer shop on ebay, the only place to shop

 

[Baloo]

ok going back to "what am l going to tow my home built with"
it has to be a commercial to have a train weight of around 8 tons, l would love to tow it with my hilux but its not going to happen at least on a public road,
so want something that is a commercial but dosent look like one !!

ok l found this on ebay




plan is to sell on the trailer leaving me the iveco for free, its was sold to me with no docs as it has spent all its life of the public highway,
but when l got it it had a tax disc in the window and tacho discs in the glove box all with reg number on, all journeys started at manchester airport and finished at manchester airport around 12 km each time it was used, so l have applied for log book lets see what happens there, might have been notified as scrapped
but l have it here,

its done 15000 miles from new all at 10 mph ! not sure its going to have enough puff for what l want so will be selling the engine
planning on removing the cab and fitting the navara king cab body l have bought so it will be an iveco that looks like a nissan navara,
that gets me away from the commercial look but should keep the train weight and iveco id ????








for an engine l was hunting for a chevy 6.5 v8 turbo diesel with auto box but one hasent fallen into my lap yet lol
but what l do have under the bench is a lexus V8 with auto box, also have a mercedes g wagon transfer box that is selectable 2 or 4 wheel drive with 1 to 1 or 2 to 1 hi and low but best part is its centre rear output, thinking of mounting that right be hind gear box to give me in effect a 2 speed axle 100 mph in hi range and 50 miles an hour in low range but doubling the torque is what l was after for porlock hill
front transfer box out put can run forward to a small diff being the front bumper working as a capstan winch, l have no traction on grass with such stiff rear springs, expecting to need a tug to get back on hard standing at some campsites

dose that make sense, why wont it work ???

 

[dolph]

Wow. Best of luck. This has the potential to be the best thread on here.
One I'll follow for sure

 

[Mick - Ford Focus]

Wow. Best of luck. This has the potential to be the best thread on here.
One I'll follow for sure

I Agree - Many Different Threads All Rolled Into One.

Best Of Luck Baloo.

M

 

[DrNik]

I will be watching in anticipation, get building so I can read through it with a mug of tea and biscuits

 

[J.B. Welding]

Whats your percentage from flee bale of hay for that one?? great project-

plastic washers are a good point as l will be bolting a steel frame to the ally trailer, just found a washer shop on ebay, the only place to shop

EPDM are good for some applications too-like a spring washer effect there will be a lot of vibration if driving in Britain! think about where the weight ends up on that ally chassis for stress points and all that, spread it out a bit old ally loves to crack of you load a small area.

 

[Rig Pig]

A mammoth project! I don't know if you will be able to keep the Nissan VIN as the chassis and drive line will be Iveco with a different engine they will probably treat it like a kit car and make you SVA (or whatever it's called now) it.

 

[Baloo]

Whats your percentage from flee bale of hay for that one?? great project-

EPDM are good for some applications too-like a spring washer effect there will be a lot of vibration if driving in Britain! think about where the weight ends up on that ally chassis for stress points and all that, spread it out a bit old ally loves to crack of you load a small area.

hi will look at EPDM plan is to make the whole assembly out of 50 x50 x2mm box section as a ridged assembly sit it on the trailer and bolt through at multiple points, down the main chassis rails at 600mm centres and the side rails and also through the pin plate at the front which is steel, that way l am towing the welded assembly and the trailer is bolted to the bottom of it, around 80 or so 10mm bolts

l think l am going to roll the trailer over and strip it completely rebuild the brakes etc that way l can inspect the chassis for cracks,
water tanks need to be removed from underneath and fitted between the floors to keep them from freezing in winter anyway.

Andy

 

[Baloo]

A mammoth project! I don't know if you will be able to keep the Nissan VIN as the chassis and drive line will be Iveco with a different engine they will probably treat it like a kit car and make you SVA (or whatever it's called now) it.

Hi

other way round its an iveco not a nissan, nissan will be declared as scrapped or at least declared as sorn for ever as they now seem to insist a vehicle can be disposed of by an authorized site or continually sorn,

anyway that aside my interpretation is that as long as l dont alter the iveco chassis it stays the original iveco, in correspondence that make it clear that any alteration to the main rails or crossmembers is considered an alteration and will require an inspection, body mounts and engine mounts are not considered alterations
and l am well in with the points tally 5 for the chassis 2 for steering 2 for suspension brakes etc etc, l will lose 1 for the engine and 2 for the gearbox

 

[Rig Pig]

That makes life easier then! The DVLA can be a pain it the a###!

 

[Baloo]

well helloie long time no postie,

things have moved on a wee bit, main thing that has caused me to change plans was the recent law change with regard to converting agricultural buildings to dwellings, seems l might not need to build a fifth wheel camper, but then l might anyway lol,
ok l have a fifth wheel camper l take out now and then, l drag it with an iveco 6 ton pickup, barely adequate is no where near its abysmal how ford can say it has a 8 ton train weight is beyond me they must have meant down hill only, it will hold 60 on a flat level motorway but any sort of incline and its all over,
so l decided i would build a better tow vehicle before l build my trailer,
l suppose l should start a new thread really as this one is suppose to be about building a trailer

so over to a new thread..............................................................................................