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[mike os]

people who think piles of poo, dirty bedrooms and half a sheep = art

 

[sardine]

I've always wanted to mess about with these " art installations" put my own junk in there when they're not looking. My art is as good as their art ?

 

[oddbob]

There is a name for some of it "Poor Art" (yes thats the technical name for making art out of junk or cheap stuff)

Hirst has shot himself in the foot, he boasted one of "his" lauded paintings was done by his son aged 3 or something....since then a lot of his pieces have failed to make anywhere near their reserve value...seems he burst his own balloon and people woke up to the fact they had been had....

Emin can actually paint...I've seen some of her "normal" stuff and its quite nice...but she's realised to be a "name" in the fine art world...you need to be controversial / an enfant terible (and its been that way since Warhol...)

The Kelpies are a cool set of sculptures...were meant to go and see them, but the first time we got lost and ended up at the falkirk wheel, and then my wife injured her foot and has developed a "mortons neuroma"...meaning walking is hell on earth for her...and all because she decided moving a bicycle was too much work and stretched over it...and it fell on her...

Poor Art (Arte Povra) was more a specific art movement that was really anti-art, or anti art establishment rather than anything else. It had similar intentions to Pop Art ...but not the success. Using everyday bits and pieces is more often than not labelled as found object art, ready-mades to some, or even up-cycled art nowadays. It's not new, the likes of Marcel Duchamp were doing it a hundred years ago ...people thought it was s**t then too! (as they did with the likes of Monet's impressionism when that first appeared ...and, of course everone knows now that that is wonderful!)

I'm not defending the likes of Hirst or Emin ...they are better self publicists than they are artists, and probably won't be remembered in years to come for achieving anything much. I just think people can get a tad confused between art and craft sometimes. Good art is not dependent on craftmanship. Just about every new art movement that has ever emerged has been slated initially for lacking the skill of what went before.

 

[DanielW]

I've always wanted to mess about with these " art installations" put my own junk in there when they're not looking. My art is as good as their art ?

You need a degree in art first.....well thats what the establishment agrees you must have.....well they had their eye wiped and got it wrong with Lowry,hah!

Personally you can't sell a load of bricks so whats the point in being an artist if yer bricks are a load of rubble.

 

[Maker]

Personally you can't sell a load of bricks so whats the point in being an artist if yer bricks are a load of rubble.

The "visual arts facility" in Colchester had a display of 620 bricks, piled up on a pallet.

 

[DanielW]

The "visual arts facility" in Colchester had a display of 620 bricks, piled up on a pallet.

Oh thats fine then,the one in Liverpool people thought it was a new piece being instated....turned out outside the gallery was a new information desk being built.

 

[ms08]

Back on topic - strangely - no bids...oh dear.....

 

[colnerov]

Back on topic - strangely - no bids...oh dear.....

That's because the bottom's fallen out of the chalk market, people have moved onto other inscription hardware.