Engineer1964
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Whens the right time? Now, next month when? To be honest if you ask a boss when the right time for a pay rise is, the chances of him saying never, has to be 100%
Someone asked me on my forum about how they could get a rise from their workplace so with a bit of reseach and digging i've come up with 10 ideas, which i think would improve chances of getting a rise, so here goes..
Firstly you never have to be embarassed to ask for a pay rise, if your boss don't give you a pay rise and you don't ask your never going to get one so i've drawn up a 10 point plan which i hope you'll use to see if you can get your rise ;D
1. Ask yourself why you deserve a rise
You are unlikely to convince anyone you're worth more unless you can find concrete arguments to back up your request. Firstly, reread your job description. If you can show your boss you've gone beyond the call of duty by taking on extra work and responsibilities then you stand a much better chance of winning him or her over.
If your contribution doesn't so easily translate to pounds and pence, think about what else you have done to improve the business. Have you helped with the smooth running of the department or introduced any new ideas or working practices?
2. Know your worth
Do some research to establish exactly what you ought to be getting paid. Check job sites on the internet and newspaper ads for comparable rates of pay for your position. Trade magazines frequently carry out salary surveys.
A word of warning: if you're going to compare your wage against that of someone else at your own firm make sure you check the company policy on pay confidentiality.
Many firms have strict rules on revealing staff pay So before you begin telling your boss you ought to be on the same wage as one of your colleagues who you happen to know is earning more, first of all ensure that information is not privileged.
3. Put pen to paper
Before meeting with your boss it might be a good idea to provide a written copy of your case in advance, a written document will give a clear idea of your arguments, which your boss could then use to plead your case with senior management.
You need to look at it from your boss's point of view. They must justify giving you extra money to their superiors, so if you give them something in writing they can refer to it is a definite plus.
4. Don't ambush your boss
No employer is going to take kindly to being put on the spot, so make sure your boss has plenty of warning of your intentions. Request a performance review and make it clear you would like to talk about pay.
5. Think about your timing
Picking the right time is crucial. First thing on a Monday or late on a Friday are definite no-noes. One survey picked out Wednesday as the day on which employers are most likely to be receptive to a pay request, but think about the rhythms of your workplace before you make your choice.
Try to schedule a meeting at a time when you know your boss will not be too busy and will have the time to give your suggestions their full attention.
It is also important to bear in mind wider trends at your company. If your firm has just announced a raft of job cuts then perhaps you ought to think twice, However, if company profits have gone through the roof, maybe now is the time to get in that request.
It is also a good tactic to arrange your meeting well in advance of budgeting so that your boss can factor it in.
6. Be realistic
Demanding your salary be doubled is unlikely to get you anywhere other than through the exit door. Bear in mind the research you have done into comparable salaries in other organisations, and that your boss does not have to agree to giving you any more money. If you want your request to be taking seriously you need to pitch it right.
7. Learn the art of negotiation
The key to negotiating is confidence. Be sure of your arguments, present your case clearly and succinctly and, most of all, don't be afraid of failure. As long as you are polite and reasonable you have nothing to fear. If you handle it gracefully and make your case well, you won't be left in a weaker position by asking.
8. Have a back-up plan
Just because your boss has turned down a pay increase doesn't mean you can't ask for non-financial benefits as an alternative. Think about what you might accept instead. Extra holidays, a Allowed to do private work in spare time, or increased training and codings, or learning a different welding disapline altogether for example
9. Keep on smiling
If your boss turns down your request, don't resort to tears or throw a tantrum. It's definitely a bad idea to make threats or issue ultimatums as you might miss out on subsequent opportunities. When you've had time to think clearly about your position, you may decide the only way to achieve career progression and a pay rise is to move jobs - in that situation you may need a reference from your boss, so it is well worth keeping him or her on side
10. Work harder
It might sound like a no-brainer, but if after racking your brain the only good reason you can come up with for why you deserve a pay rise is that you'd really like one, then you should probably put the idea on hold. Instead, it might be time to knuckle down to some old-fashioned graft, or take on more responsibility around the workplace. That way, in six months or a year's time you can go back to your boss with a more legitimate case.
Hope that helps, and if anyone else has any tips add them here
Someone asked me on my forum about how they could get a rise from their workplace so with a bit of reseach and digging i've come up with 10 ideas, which i think would improve chances of getting a rise, so here goes..
Firstly you never have to be embarassed to ask for a pay rise, if your boss don't give you a pay rise and you don't ask your never going to get one so i've drawn up a 10 point plan which i hope you'll use to see if you can get your rise ;D
1. Ask yourself why you deserve a rise
You are unlikely to convince anyone you're worth more unless you can find concrete arguments to back up your request. Firstly, reread your job description. If you can show your boss you've gone beyond the call of duty by taking on extra work and responsibilities then you stand a much better chance of winning him or her over.
If your contribution doesn't so easily translate to pounds and pence, think about what else you have done to improve the business. Have you helped with the smooth running of the department or introduced any new ideas or working practices?
2. Know your worth
Do some research to establish exactly what you ought to be getting paid. Check job sites on the internet and newspaper ads for comparable rates of pay for your position. Trade magazines frequently carry out salary surveys.
A word of warning: if you're going to compare your wage against that of someone else at your own firm make sure you check the company policy on pay confidentiality.
Many firms have strict rules on revealing staff pay So before you begin telling your boss you ought to be on the same wage as one of your colleagues who you happen to know is earning more, first of all ensure that information is not privileged.
3. Put pen to paper
Before meeting with your boss it might be a good idea to provide a written copy of your case in advance, a written document will give a clear idea of your arguments, which your boss could then use to plead your case with senior management.
You need to look at it from your boss's point of view. They must justify giving you extra money to their superiors, so if you give them something in writing they can refer to it is a definite plus.
4. Don't ambush your boss
No employer is going to take kindly to being put on the spot, so make sure your boss has plenty of warning of your intentions. Request a performance review and make it clear you would like to talk about pay.
5. Think about your timing
Picking the right time is crucial. First thing on a Monday or late on a Friday are definite no-noes. One survey picked out Wednesday as the day on which employers are most likely to be receptive to a pay request, but think about the rhythms of your workplace before you make your choice.
Try to schedule a meeting at a time when you know your boss will not be too busy and will have the time to give your suggestions their full attention.
It is also important to bear in mind wider trends at your company. If your firm has just announced a raft of job cuts then perhaps you ought to think twice, However, if company profits have gone through the roof, maybe now is the time to get in that request.
It is also a good tactic to arrange your meeting well in advance of budgeting so that your boss can factor it in.
6. Be realistic
Demanding your salary be doubled is unlikely to get you anywhere other than through the exit door. Bear in mind the research you have done into comparable salaries in other organisations, and that your boss does not have to agree to giving you any more money. If you want your request to be taking seriously you need to pitch it right.
7. Learn the art of negotiation
The key to negotiating is confidence. Be sure of your arguments, present your case clearly and succinctly and, most of all, don't be afraid of failure. As long as you are polite and reasonable you have nothing to fear. If you handle it gracefully and make your case well, you won't be left in a weaker position by asking.
8. Have a back-up plan
Just because your boss has turned down a pay increase doesn't mean you can't ask for non-financial benefits as an alternative. Think about what you might accept instead. Extra holidays, a Allowed to do private work in spare time, or increased training and codings, or learning a different welding disapline altogether for example
9. Keep on smiling
If your boss turns down your request, don't resort to tears or throw a tantrum. It's definitely a bad idea to make threats or issue ultimatums as you might miss out on subsequent opportunities. When you've had time to think clearly about your position, you may decide the only way to achieve career progression and a pay rise is to move jobs - in that situation you may need a reference from your boss, so it is well worth keeping him or her on side
10. Work harder
It might sound like a no-brainer, but if after racking your brain the only good reason you can come up with for why you deserve a pay rise is that you'd really like one, then you should probably put the idea on hold. Instead, it might be time to knuckle down to some old-fashioned graft, or take on more responsibility around the workplace. That way, in six months or a year's time you can go back to your boss with a more legitimate case.
Hope that helps, and if anyone else has any tips add them here
Now most have gone home because the cost of living has near enough doubled in the UK, More English workers are being employed but a majority of employers are still paying silly money Like £7, £8 an hour for what i concider a Skilled occupation
