Anybody use Sage 50 for their business accounts

[RonA]

The son in law uses Sage 50 for his business accounts & the wife looks after his invoicing, VAT etc.
The other day the computer was running as slow as charity & so I installed CCleaner which I have used to good effect before.
Not one of my better ideas seemingly CCleaner & Sage are no simpatico & couldnt log on to the account. To cut long story short all sorted by a tame IT guy. Which begs the question what can you use with Sage to stop the computer doing a Brian the snail impersonation.
RonA

 

[WorkshopChris]

I know a few people using it on a dedicated machine just for sage.
I am not a fan, far to many people having the way they operate there business run the way sage wants.
Not sage helping them to run a business the way they want.

 

[RonA]

I know a few people using it on a dedicated machine just for sage.
I am not a fan, far to many people having the way they operate there business run the way sage wants.
Not sage helping them to run a business the way they want.

The wife is not a fan either but the accountant uses it ergo the decision wasn’t in our hands. Still need to fond a way to clean the machine without wiping the Sage entries in the registry, which is what happened with Ccleaner.
RonA

 

[carbon]

I have it running on a Samsung nc 10 with atom processor, so far haven’t had any issues with it in the last 8 years or so. I suppose it depends on what version you are using as I still on version 12

 

[Robotstar5]

The wife is not a fan either but the accountant uses it ergo the decision wasn’t in our hands. Still need to fond a way to clean the machine without wiping the Sage entries in the registry, which is what happened with Ccleaner.
RonA

Don't you get the option of which registry entries to delete before you press the "fix now" button?, you could untick the Sage entries.

 

[Bullet2012]

The wife is not a fan either but the accountant uses it ergo the decision wasn’t in our hands. Still need to fond a way to clean the machine without wiping the Sage entries in the registry, which is what happened with Ccleaner.
RonA

I have just changed accountant as my old one started to insist that I change account software for one she preferred.

 

[RonA]

Don't you get the option of which registry entries to delete before you press the "fix now" button?, you could untick the Sage entries.

Yes I think you do, unfortunately I normally just hit fix all & have never had problems before. Must be a well known issue eventually found details on the Sage help pages, unfortunately Sage don’t warn you before the event. Even restoring the saved Ccleaner registry file didn’t put the job right.
Unfortunately although Sage tell you there is an issue with Ccleaner but not what to use instead.
RonA

 

[RonA]

I have it running on a Samsung nc 10 with atom processor, so far haven’t had any issues with it in the last 8 years or so. I suppose it depends on what version you are using as I still on version 12

I’m not quite sure how your managing that, after latest windows 10 upgrade version 23 ceased to work & you had to download v24
RonA

 

[carbon]

Im not using Win 10 so possibly don’t have the same issues

 

[slim_boy_fat]

Would a System Restore to a point pre-CCleaner work?

 

[Kayos]

How big a business?

I use pen, paper and a simple spreadsheet but it’s just me and the odd subbie. Looked at quickbooks etc but not happy passing all that info to an app

 

[RonA]

Would a System Restore to a point pre-CCleaner work?

Its fixed now but I don’t know how the IT guy sorted it, may have been as simple as doing a system restore. Still need to find a cleaner that doesn’t interfere with Sage as it was like watching paint dry before using Ccleaner. The computer only runs Sage, Basic PAYE & excel to turn out payslips for half a dozen employees.
RonA

 

[RonA]

How big a business?

I use pen, paper and a simple spreadsheet but it’s just me and the odd subbie. Looked at quickbooks etc but not happy passing all that info to an app

Not huge but lots of invoices bit beyoind the paper & pencil stage.
RonA

 

[MoreWellie]

Still need to find a cleaner that doesn’t interfere with

Not sure this is possible, whilst they CAN help on PCs the opportunity for mayhem is always present with this sort of program and my advice would be stay away from a one size fits all solution like Ccleaner. I appreciate this is going to be a marmite answer so I am prepared to have it disputed but the result on this occasion justifies my opinion. Unfortunately, snake oil salesman can nearly always produce people that were "cured" by their remedy

If your computer is running slow there are lots of potential reasons but an increasingly common one for Windows 10 are the PCs that only have 3 or 4Gb of memory fitted. The PC may be old. It may have a basic processor. It may have a slow hard disk. if it is Windows 10 and there is a major update waiting to install then PCs often go extra slow or functions fail weirdly

If they have an IT guy and he is giving value for money then why not let him tell your son in law why its slow?

 

[bigegg]

you might find that ccleaner et al wont help: its simply clogged up with windows updates.

how much space is left on the hard drive?


my suggestion, based on recently upgrading my pc:

buy a ssd hard drive - 250gb is about 40-60 quid.
install sage, windows, excel and PAYE on the ssd - there should be more than enough space.

if its anything like my experience, the speed increase will be *phenomenal*


<edit> +1 for possibly not enough RAM


<edit 2> i paid 130 quid for a 8-core processor, motherboard, 12gb of memory and a basic graphics card - 2nd hand off the bay - so an upgrade is not expensive.

 

[bigegg]

oh. ps
i use VT transaction plus for my accounts.

not sure if/how well it does invoicing/PAYE but it does basic bookkeeping/VAT *very* well.

 

[RonA]

Not sure this is possible, whilst they CAN help on PCs the opportunity for mayhem is always present with this sort of program and my advice would be stay away from a one size fits all solution like Ccleaner. I appreciate this is going to be a marmite answer so I am prepared to have it disputed but the result on this occasion justifies my opinion. Unfortunately, snake oil salesman can nearly always produce people that were "cured" by their remedy

If your computer is running slow there are lots of potential reasons but an increasingly common one for Windows 10 are the PCs that only have 3 or 4Gb of memory fitted. The PC may be old. It may have a basic processor. It may have a slow hard disk. if it is Windows 10 and there is a major update waiting to install then PCs often go extra slow or functions fail weirdly

If they have an IT guy and he is giving value for money then why not let him tell your son in law why its slow?

The HP PC is less than 2 years old & has bags of free space on the harddrive. It just slowly deteriorated to a snails pace despite having only 3 major packages on it, Sage, PAYE goverment basic package & office.
Unfortunately the IT guy who fixed it works for the accountant & we wont be able to call on his services again unless we cross his hands with a lot of silver.
Ill check to see how much ram it has I can easily incrrase it but for what its doing wouldn’t have thought it needed much more, its not exactly a gaming machine.
RonA

 

[RonA]

oh. ps
i use VT transaction plus for my accounts.

not sure if/how well it does invoicing/PAYE but it does basic bookkeeping/VAT *very* well.

Stuck with Sage sadly, the accountant uses it.
RonA