Any wood working plane experts lurking?

[The_Yellow_Ardvark]

Any wood working plane experts lurking?


A few weeks ago I was given a shoe box with a rusty, dismantled Stanley Smoothing plane, in bits.

It is now cleaned up, rust free. Just missing 2 washers. They disappeared during the de-rusting. I assume they are some of the flakes at the bottom of the tank.

I am having issues setting up the cap iron to the blade.

I tested the blade after a quick hone and it does cut well when held like a chisel.

I set the Cap 1mm from the blade edge. Is that correct?

Were in relationship to the base and the blade does the “Frog” go. No matter where I set it, I end up terrible cuts, or I have to wind the blade so far it tears the wood.

Any help or pointers I will be great full. It is too good a plane to junk.


Yes I know the base says Bailey but it has Stanley Lever cap.

 

[The_Yellow_Ardvark]

Some reason could not upload this image.
Lever cap.

Why does the blade look rusty, it is not. it is just the image.

 

[TechnicAl]

have you got the blade the right way round

 

[The_Yellow_Ardvark]

@TechnicAl
I think so, all the evidence says it is.

 

[julianthegypsy]

1mm sounds like a very deep cut to me, I'd try a quarter of that.

 

[Dieselman 63]

Yeah 1mm will be horrendous, just gouging out the timber. I've got a big No7 which I use for most of my woodworking (Got given it, what a score!) and I try and get a hair-width amount of blade in to get it working properly.

Your blade is in the right way round, the logo faces up which is good. Might be an idea to adjust the lateral pitch lever to a more central position though. I prefer Record irons as they provide you with the correct angle for honing the blade. Record/Marples irons are also thicker and give a better cut I feel.

 

[The_Yellow_Ardvark]

Thanks for the detail on blade and Cap iron
What about the frog to the base issue?

 

[Dieselman 63]

I've never understood why they let you move the frog back and forth. I think you're calling the chip-breaker the cap iron, only one piece is the cap which is the lever cap (that's got the Stanley name on it). Someone else will know more than me though.

 

[The_Yellow_Ardvark]

@Dieselkid 63
From memory and this link.
http://www.antique-used-tools.com/comparts.htm

 

[Dieselman 63]

Oh I see. The adjustible frog is to control how wide the mouth is open on the plane. The chip-breaker should be about .5 mm away from the cutting edge apparently.

 

[voipio]

Take a look at these images to confirm the correct orientation of the blade:

https://www.bing.com/images/search?q=wood plane anatomy&&form=IDIVXX

Decided to make some measurements when doing some planing the other day. 40-60 micron thick shavings were coming out from the finishing passes.

 

[rikrobson]

you did make sure the blade was sharpened!

 

[pedrobedro]

Cap iron to blade edge should be about 1/8" according to my old books, a bit more than 1mm. Watch a few Youtube videos there are some good tips on there

 

[Arc Tourist]

Here are photos of the correct assembly of blade, chip breaker, and cap iron.

 

[armalites]

He is a link to a guy called Wranglerstar restoring a Stanley Plane several videos

 

[brightspark]

Here are photos of the correct assembly of blade, chip breaker, and cap iron. View attachment 89941 View attachment 89942

that blade doesn't look much goodits chipped and rusty . its not even sat square

 

[rikrobson]

if the 1st picture isthe chip breaker sitting on the blade, the blade is shot. you'll need to sharpen it or no amount of adjusting will make it plane correc
tly

 

[brightspark]

a bit of info on sharpening and angle of blade https://virginiatoolworks.com/2013/02/16/sharpening-angles-for-bench-block-planes/ a blunt and rusty blade are as much use as a chocolate fireguard

 

[Arc Tourist]

Thanks for the feedback. Sorry, but my camera is not focusing very well. There is nothing wrong with what I've shown in the in the photos, the irons are not rusty, just dust and patina, and the reason it appears out of square is that I took it apart and loosely stacked the blade, chip breaker and cap iron together for the photos.
Hopefully I know a " little bit " about planes, and trust my previous post might have been helpful. Here is another photo of a few of my Stanley planes, and sorry about the contrast, things are not quite working well today.

 

[voipio]

Here are some instructions for a Record plane - most will be relevant to the Stanley, too:

https://app.box.com/s/00pjbkxf25unvkmzxn0w76x7qqstdeuw