Any one using one of these Bison welding generators ?

[sardine]

This would be ideal for my offgrid workshop but I can see that it's a rebadged Chineseum nasty machine, I would expect never ending faults and bits falling off like my 5 kw Chinese Diesel.

https://www.warriorwelders.com/product/bison-mark-ii-diesel-generator/

 

[frank horton]

all those extra's....has to be Chinese.....
would guess if it was a euro machine it'd be over 3 grand.....

 

[zzr1200]

I've been mightily impressed with my Hyundai petrol wood chipper/shredder, and I'm considering one of these, it comes with 3 years domestic use warranty............

Hyundai 8kW / 10kVA* Petrol Open Frame Site Generator, Recoil and Electric Start | HY10000LEK-2

The Hyundai HY10000LEK-2 is a 8.5kW / 10.6kVA Recoil & Electric Start Petrol Generator. Powerful and portable, the HY10000LEK-2 is extremely reliable and generates a max power of 8kW. Available to order today.

hyundaipowerequipment.co.uk

 

[Erie Fred]

If you just purchase a very common genset, and use it to power your welders, they are more plentiful, and will
get much more usage when your not welding.
Keeping a specialized genset with integral welder around that may not get run for a week at a time sounds like a bad idea.
Standard genset will power a better welder with more features, an air compressor, and a plasma unit.

 

[Ian X]

The first brushcutter I bought was a Hyundai badged generic Chinese one, I cannot recall what all those 50cc ones were ripped off from. Anyway the clutch failed after about 20 months, it was on a typical 2 year Euro warranty. I was offered a refund or another one, I took a replacement and that one after three years is still functional. There was absolutely no quibble with claiming warranty.

 

[Ian X]

I've been mightily impressed with my Hyundai petrol wood chipper/shredder, and I'm considering one of these, it comes with 3 years domestic use warranty............

Hyundai 8kW / 10kVA* Petrol Open Frame Site Generator, Recoil and Electric Start | HY10000LEK-2

The Hyundai HY10000LEK-2 is a 8.5kW / 10.6kVA Recoil & Electric Start Petrol Generator. Powerful and portable, the HY10000LEK-2 is extremely reliable and generates a max power of 8kW. Available to order today.

hyundaipowerequipment.co.uk

I must have a look around to see what the engine is based on, it must surely be something that is produced in large quantities

I've been mightily impressed with my Hyundai petrol wood chipper/shredder, and I'm considering one of these, it comes with 3 years domestic use warranty............

Hyundai 8kW / 10kVA* Petrol Open Frame Site Generator, Recoil and Electric Start | HY10000LEK-2

The Hyundai HY10000LEK-2 is a 8.5kW / 10.6kVA Recoil & Electric Start Petrol Generator. Powerful and portable, the HY10000LEK-2 is extremely reliable and generates a max power of 8kW. Available to order today.

hyundaipowerequipment.co.uk

£50 cheaper. https://www.farmers-equipment.co.uk/product/hyundai-hy10000lek-2-8-0kw-generator/

 

[zzr1200]

£50 cheaper. https://www.farmers-equipment.co.uk/product/hyundai-hy10000lek-2-8-0kw-generator/

I've see that listing, for a saving of £50.00, l'll prefer to deal direct with Hyundai.

 

[Ian X]

I've see that listing, for a saving of £50.00, l'll prefer to deal direct with Hyundai.

It's a Hyundai warranty, it can be claimed through the retailer or with Hyundai Power Products in the UK. If you phone Hyundai Power Products in the UK they will tell you that. They will honour their distributors as they do their own customers.

 

[sardine]

If you just purchase a very common genset, and use it to power your welders, they are more plentiful, and will
get much more usage when your not welding.
Keeping a specialized genset with integral welder around that may not get run for a week at a time sounds like a bad idea.
Standard genset will power a better welder with more features, an air compressor, and a plasma unit.

The Bison doesn't have welding output it has an AVR designed to power welders so they say.

 

[Erie Fred]

The Bison doesn't have welding output it has an AVR designed to power welders so they say.

What ?

 

[GRW]

A 15hp single diesel cyl at 3000rpm, & made of Chinesium? I'd be in no rush for one.
The AVR tuned for inductive loads or whatever is just flim-flam - all AVR generators are built expecting to run inductive loads!
I don't think the motor can be a clone of a Japanese or euro motor (as it common)... as I am not aware of any 1 pot 3000-3600rpm small industrial diesel above 10hp.
It's a strange one but at £1600 I'd not have high hopes myself

 

[sardine]

A 15hp single diesel cyl at 3000rpm, & made of Chinesium? I'd be in no rush for one.
The AVR tuned for inductive loads or whatever is just flim-flam - all AVR generators are built expecting to run inductive loads!
I don't think the motor can be a clone of a Japanese or euro motor (as it common)... as I am not aware of any 1 pot 3000-3600rpm small industrial diesel above 10hp.
It's a strange one but at £1600 I'd not have high hopes myself

Looks like the Chinese have made a bigger 15hp version of the 10 hp Yanmar L100

The Warrior Bison is this ..

Wholesale industrial diesel generator factory in China | BISON

Diesel industria generators provide the response, power and life required for many applications. They also comply with the standards of the BISON factory

www.bisongenerator.com

I can't find anyone else importing them though.

 

[Onthespotwelding]

It’s a British company Why not just give warrior welders a call and ask them about the generator?

 

[Bravheart]

This would be ideal for my offgrid workshop but I can see that it's a rebadged Chineseum nasty machine, I would expect never ending faults and bits falling off like my 5 kw Chinese Diesel.

https://www.warriorwelders.com/product/bison-mark-ii-diesel-generator/

When you look at their welders they claim that generator will power their 350a single phase welder. Not bad if true

 

[Onthespotwelding]

@sardine did you get hold of warriors welders regarding The bison mk2 generator?

I found a video of it in action

 

[sardine]

@sardine did you get hold of warriors welders regarding The bison mk2 generator?

I found a video of it in action

They told me they no longer sell the open frame one as the noise level was too high, in any case I've gone off the idea as they are a lot of money for a generic machine you can buy under loads of brand names straight from China.

 

[Memmeddu]

all those extra's....has to be Chinese.....
would guess if it was a euro machine it'd be over 3 grand.....

Way over
An equivalent of my engine driven welder still equipped with a gasoline engine is about 6000 euro with 170A welding current an 4.5kW 3 phase/3kW single phase...
My pramac 4.5kW Genny with Honda engine is sold between 1300 and 1600 Euro just a simple single phase genny

 

[Onthespotwelding]

They told me they no longer sell the open frame one as the noise level was too high, in any case I've gone off the idea as they are a lot of money for a generic machine you can buy under loads of brand names straight from China.

Maybe, however you Won’t get a 1000 hour warranty And good luck sending it back to china should it go wrong.

What other generators are you looking at?

This Honda 10kva

https://www.sgs-engineering.com/se10000-super-economy-portable-petrol-generator

but nearly a grand more than the bison generator from warrior welders.

 

[sardine]

I've got an 8 kw Chinese nasty (for free) to refurb this spring , well see what it can power. If it works .


I only need a 3.2 electrode , most of the time I'm using a 2.5.

 

[sardine]

I've got an 8 kw Chinese nasty (for free) to refurb this spring , well see what it can power. If it works .


I only need a 3.2 electrode , most of the time I'm using a 2.5.

I have learnt that these Bohmer 8 kW generators are wildly over rated and nothing like 8kw, welding off it would surley kill it. I shall be refurbished it and selling it ASAP and putting the money toward a proper welder generator.