Reading through this thread... well it just reaffirms that I intensely dislike the over-complication and ott electronics and controls on newer cars. A lot.
I had a new Renault Kangoo work van for quite a while - it had auto start/stop, as well as an auto brake feature for assisted Hill start. I loathed both features.
The brake drag if anything bugged me more. After lifetime habit when reverse parking/turning when facing uphill, of just leaving the vehicle in 1st with the clutch in to drop into spaces (also then able to quickly "shunt" forward and then drop back using gravity.... this poxy van would just "hang" there, forcing a load if extra gearstick faffing just to do the job slower and more awkwardly.
To defeat the autostart I used to keep the clutch depressed even if I'd selected Neutral and my foot on the brake pedal... to stop the irritating system cutting the motor if you were stationary for 0.5s.
As for electric Handbrake with the calipers coded to the ECU etc - just don't get me started. No way.
I'll steer clear of buying any vehicle with this crap on it for along as possible - the annoyance factor as well as the reliability/cost issues turn me off a vehicle so equipped totally.
I had a new Renault Kangoo work van for quite a while - it had auto start/stop, as well as an auto brake feature for assisted Hill start. I loathed both features.
The brake drag if anything bugged me more. After lifetime habit when reverse parking/turning when facing uphill, of just leaving the vehicle in 1st with the clutch in to drop into spaces (also then able to quickly "shunt" forward and then drop back using gravity.... this poxy van would just "hang" there, forcing a load if extra gearstick faffing just to do the job slower and more awkwardly.
To defeat the autostart I used to keep the clutch depressed even if I'd selected Neutral and my foot on the brake pedal... to stop the irritating system cutting the motor if you were stationary for 0.5s.
As for electric Handbrake with the calipers coded to the ECU etc - just don't get me started. No way.
I'll steer clear of buying any vehicle with this crap on it for along as possible - the annoyance factor as well as the reliability/cost issues turn me off a vehicle so equipped totally.

