Dog and owner reunited.The two twin wheel sprinters barely marked the ground. The kids were entertained,especially by firemen stories,they arrived incredibly quickly,it was a shame 2 seperate sets of resources were used ,but I guess an alert such as this potentially had humans at risk.
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Dog and owner reunited.The two twin wheel sprinters barely marked the ground. The kids were entertained,especially by firemen stories,they arrived incredibly quickly,it was a shame 2 seperate sets of resources were used ,but I guess an alert such as this potentially had humans at risk.
As a qualified Marine Mamnal Medic with British Divers Marine Life Rescue, they who rescued the errant Bottlenose Dolphin that swam up the Thames in 2006, I attended a "Large animal rescue conference" hosted by Hampshire Fire Brigade at Lyndhurst in the New Forest in 2008.
Incredibly, the fire chaps had no set procedures at that time for rescuing large animals, ie horses, cows, etc, and BDMLR were asked to attend because they're the top hands at marine rescues in the UK and they quite often have to call on the fire folk for assistance. We gave them a demonstration of a whale rescue using an inflatable whale, I kid you not, that fills with water and simulates an adult Pilot whale weighing about 2 tons, and can be returned to the sea using a pontoon and inflatable sponson system that was devised by the antipodean chaps who get regular mass standings of whales down under.
The conference was a great weekend that gave a fascinating insight into the workings of the fire folk, but also for some of the talks given by a husband and wife team of animal trauma specialists from America who had done sterling work during Hurricane Katrina. They also showed footage of the aftermath of an overturned American artic livestock wagon, 53' long as opposed to ours that are 45. Chop the roof off and drag the dead beasts out with a telehandler
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A quiet tip for anyone ever in this situation. Typically, emergency services DONT turn out for incidents involving animals like this unless human life is at stake. Certainly the coastguard will generally not launch a shout for one. The answer is to tell them your dog/cat/budgie is in the river/sea/down a cliff, and you are going to go after them. Immediate risk to life and emergency service launched
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It’s good to hear from someone who’s from BDMLR with a bit between the ears! Sound like you do a good job and your district is pretty switched on.As a qualified Marine Mamnal Medic with British Divers Marine Life Rescue, they who rescued the errant Bottlenose Dolphin that swam up the Thames in 2006, I attended a "Large animal rescue conference" hosted by Hampshire Fire Brigade at Lyndhurst in the New Forest in 2008.
Incredibly, the fire chaps had no set procedures at that time for rescuing large animals, ie horses, cows, etc, and BDMLR were asked to attend because they're the top hands at marine rescues in the UK and they quite often have to call on the fire folk for assistance. We gave them a demonstration of a whale rescue using an inflatable whale, I kid you not, that fills with water and simulates an adult Pilot whale weighing about 2 tons, and can be returned to the sea using a pontoon and inflatable sponson system that was devised by the antipodean chaps who get regular mass standings of whales down under.
The conference was a great weekend that gave a fascinating insight into the workings of the fire folk, but also for some of the talks given by a husband and wife team of animal trauma specialists from America who had done sterling work during Hurricane Katrina. They also showed footage of the aftermath of an overturned American artic livestock wagon, 53' long as opposed to ours that are 45. Chop the roof off and drag the dead beasts out with a telehandler
could do with passing a bit on to the clowns we get scrambling up here from south somewhere when there’s an incident. Their main methods seem to revolve around lots of hi viz and shouting at people. Shame really as there’s some good work going on.
@Tinbasherdan good tip. We regularly get dogs off cliffs here. Why people can’t put them on leads is beyond me. Sometimes coastguard tip up, other times not. Probably depends on what was said on phone?
I remember touring a fire station as a kids with scouts or something and the guy said they have to rescue animals? Dunno if that’s right but it was 30 odd years ago!
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sometimes they wont even help humans. same as the old bill if its going to endanger your own life .within reason that's ok but shouldn't be set in stone 
within reason that's ok but shouldn't be set in stone 
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Really? You condone wasting the emergency services time and effort like that? Welcome to modern Britain.
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Having been the one getting the page and running the boat out, I’ll tell you now we would happily launch for an animal in danger. The issue is getting that call through
RNLI - Mountain rescue - and many other organisations are volunteers who are only too glad to help.
I used to be in cave and mountain rescue - and we used to wait around eagerly for a shout!
When a dog is in distress most decent owners DO put their lives at risk - I certainly would - animals are often as close to people as any other family member!
Yes exactly - never been in the RNLI but would have loved to. Been involved in a few rescues but mainly as safety boat during events.
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sometimes pets are the only thing some people have and if they loose them its like the end of the world 
I wouldn't like to think the services said we wont go out because of the cash involved I don't mind paying for good causes
I wouldn't like to think the services said we wont go out because of the cash involved I don't mind paying for good causes
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Then you should know better than to post what you did on a public forum. The Coastguard up here were paged because a spaniel was in the water FFS. By the time they got there the dog was and long gone.
It's only a dog/cat/whatever, the rescue home are full of them.
I've done the whale rescue thing too, about 15 years ago. Some of the attitudes I encountered weren't what I like in an organisation like that.
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It’s not just a dog, or cat or whatever, it’s a family member, and I’d much sooner post the above than someone dies trying to rescue a pet because coastguard said no. Frankly, if that’s the way you look at things I’m glad you’re no longer involved, I wouldn’t want you on a boat watching my back
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strange. “It’s only a dog / cat whatever” But spend free time training how to rescue whales.
whales must be special
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Imaging I'm actually in a rescue organisation*.
Just because I don't think they should do some things that they do doesn't mean I wouldn't do them. Most animals will self rescue, if their owners were as clever as their pet they might realise this. Also the owners should take a bit more personal responsibility in looking out for their pet. Some seem as irresponsible as those who climb mountains without taking sensible precautions and kit, but they don't get the same opprobrium when it goes badly.
Why should my personal view on what is done make me less than acceptable as a team member, bearing in mind the hierarchy of rescue? Serious question BTW, I'm genuinely interested in any answers.
Whales are special, most are an endangered species, the same can't be said for pets. There's a curious sliding value for animals, the cuter the more valued. Cheap farmed meat sold in ready packs being at the bottom of the list.
*Why the asterisk? Because I am, and I've spent most of the last three days away from home training in some of the worst weather this place can supply. Happily there wasn't too much gale force sleet when we were up in the hills, and even more happily I wasn't the poor chap dangling off the cliff. And that's a proper gale according to the Beaufort scale, not an 'It's a bit breezy' gale. Yes, I've been called out for animal rescues, and yes I've dropped everything and turned out, do it all or don't sign up for it.
I've gave some thought to my response to this as I plodded back off the hill.
I'll shut up now lest
Just because I don't think they should do some things that they do doesn't mean I wouldn't do them. Most animals will self rescue, if their owners were as clever as their pet they might realise this. Also the owners should take a bit more personal responsibility in looking out for their pet. Some seem as irresponsible as those who climb mountains without taking sensible precautions and kit, but they don't get the same opprobrium when it goes badly.
Why should my personal view on what is done make me less than acceptable as a team member, bearing in mind the hierarchy of rescue? Serious question BTW, I'm genuinely interested in any answers.
Whales are special, most are an endangered species, the same can't be said for pets. There's a curious sliding value for animals, the cuter the more valued. Cheap farmed meat sold in ready packs being at the bottom of the list.
*Why the asterisk? Because I am, and I've spent most of the last three days away from home training in some of the worst weather this place can supply. Happily there wasn't too much gale force sleet when we were up in the hills, and even more happily I wasn't the poor chap dangling off the cliff. And that's a proper gale according to the Beaufort scale, not an 'It's a bit breezy' gale. Yes, I've been called out for animal rescues, and yes I've dropped everything and turned out, do it all or don't sign up for it.
I've gave some thought to my response to this as I plodded back off the hill.
I'll shut up now lest
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Because your statement that “it’s only a cat/dog” shows you have absolutely no consideration for how or why people get into these situations. I wouldn’t want anyone who is likely to be ****** off because he’s not playing big hero and rescuing a load of babies from a burning building just because he’s been tasked to a dog rescue on my crew. You turn up but you clearly do it begrudgingly and to me that means you’re not invested in the rescue and that makes you dangerous to me. I’ll say no more on the matter, what you do on your team is up to you
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Imaging I'm actually in a rescue organisation*.
Just because I don't think they should do some things that they do doesn't mean I wouldn't do them. Most animals will self rescue, if their owners were as clever as their pet they might realise this. Also the owners should take a bit more personal responsibility in looking out for their pet. Some seem as irresponsible as those who climb mountains without taking sensible precautions and kit, but they don't get the same opprobrium when it goes badly.
Why should my personal view on what is done make me less than acceptable as a team member, bearing in mind the hierarchy of rescue? Serious question BTW, I'm genuinely interested in any answers.
Whales are special, most are an endangered species, the same can't be said for pets. There's a curious sliding value for animals, the cuter the more valued. Cheap farmed meat sold in ready packs being at the bottom of the list.
*Why the asterisk? Because I am, and I've spent most of the last three days away from home training in some of the worst weather this place can supply. Happily there wasn't too much gale force sleet when we were up in the hills, and even more happily I wasn't the poor chap dangling off the cliff. And that's a proper gale according to the Beaufort scale, not an 'It's a bit breezy' gale. Yes, I've been called out for animal rescues, and yes I've dropped everything and turned out, do it all or don't sign up for it.
I've gave some thought to my response to this as I plodded back off the hill.
I'll shut up now lest
As a teenager - on a narrowboat with my Mother - her little dog fell in - she sent me in to get it.
I can testify to the fact "Most animals will self rescue". Mothers little sausage dog was out of the river before I was - under its own steam.
As for status - clearly dogs have a higher status than children in my Mothers house!
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On another instance my wife got stuck in a dyke on a dog walk - trying to retrieve a grandchilds CROC shoe. She did get out - but you wanna see the muddy mess that came walking up the road towards the house.
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I am not here to start arguments or impose my views in any way but that sort of attitude will get people killed for sure.
It is not "just a..." in many people's eyes.
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a woman near us got stuck in the mud on the river bank trying to rescue her dog that was also stuck in it the tide was coming in and she managed to call the fire brigade out on her mobile luckily as it was nowhere near within ear shot of anyone was working at her house and took the pee and said I hear you are a stick in the mud 
the tide was coming in and she managed to call the fire brigade out on her mobile luckily as it was nowhere near within ear shot of anyone was working at her house and took the pee and said I hear you are a stick in the mud
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a woman near us got stuck in the mud on the river bank trying to rescue her dog that was also stuck in it
When my missus got stuck - she calmly laid down in the mud - wiggled out of her wellies thru them to the kids - then crawled/rolled out on her tummy to spread the wieght.
On arrival home - you wanna see the mess - every part of her down to knickers was covered. Her face/hair - in her mouth.
"The dirtiest foul mouthed middle aged woman you have ever seen".
Kids reckon she was very composed - she did not panic at all.
