Air receiver wall thickness

[fizzy]

Does anyone have any idea how thick the steel used is?

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Vertical...rentrq:11d43d0616e0ac3c1d5e677bffebfe45|iid:1

Was thinking of buying an old air receiver to build a huge woodburner!

 

[gaz1]

3mm to 5mm thickness

 

[fizzy]

3mm to 5mm thickness

Not enough then. I will try and find some 26" oil pipeline - about 4 to 5' long. That is about 10 to 12mm wall I think.

 

[gaz1]

what are you making ?

mind if i ask

 

[fizzy]

what are you making ?

mind if i ask

A huge woodburner.
I want to be able to put pallet bearers in directly without having to cut them in half.
Also it would be nice to have something that looks rather steampunk!
Plan will be to connect it to a huge heatstore along with the oil central heating.

 

[gaz1]

if you was to throw in a whole pallet and burn it the system would be inefficient as too much air would be around the pallet as it burnt away

https://www.bishopbrothers.net/pallet-burner/

when its broken up it would be less space but has a long time before it burns down to a degree

pallets burn fast

your best interest is with a downdraft boiler burns it above but goes through the coals this makes it really hot able to heat its water chamber underneath and at rear of the boiler

 

[fizzy]

I won't use a whole pallet. The planks are too skinny.
My neighbouring business recycles pallets. He gets big industrial ones. Strips and keeps the planks I get the side bearers. Sometimes as big as 6x4".
I use a chop saw to cut into half or 1/3rds for my woodburner.
Be nice to put them in whole.

 

[fizzy]

Some of the smaller stuff I brought home last night.
Going in water proof pallet crates. No storage at house.
Should last a week or perhaps 2.

 

[gaz1]

answers my question

have you alot of wood to burn and get it freely often ?

are you interested in using extra power sources to run it?

electric fan to boost air input or prefer natural flow

size vs conserving wood being burnt

are you interested in a clean burn system or a dirty system there is a difference

 

[fizzy]

Yes unlimited wood supply so don't need to conserve it.
Fan assisted are noisy I assume?
Will be used for large residential old farmhouse.
Windy area no neighbours so clean not essential but would be nice.

 

[sako243]

Hehe I think this would do you:

20" OD, 20mm wall thickness and just shy of 3m long. Unfortunately it's been cut up into 3 sections and not technically mine although it has made the trip from Surrey to Carmarthenshire. Meant to be turning it into some stupid size smokers for an acquaintance.

 

[gaz1]

the trouble with electric supply is if it fails you got alot of water that can boil in a stove or in a boiler

clean burn vs not the more orange the flames the more its cleaner the more blue and its much more cleaner more of a gas

theres a difference between the models below trying to show you the difference if your building one

on another note a rocket stove can get a purple orange tip so is very hot indeed

 

[KemppiFrog]

My first wood burner was from a 45kg gas cylinder. Around 1980. As far as I know, it was still heating about five years ago. Info a bit fuzzy, exes and stuff, you would understand...
IIRR it was 3mm. Lasted quite well..

 

[gaz1]

well its after work stage so heres the info

the old type smoked really bad dosnt use electric other than your boiler pumping the water to other propertys

downdraft systems uses electric to blow air into system so 2 types of electric being used one for the intake of air and the other the pump

the newer model

this is what rocket stoves use as you can see its hot and we havent pushed it through the coals of a fire

 

[gaz1]

as with the above video it quotes 1700f

theres only one system of a rocket stove that has hit that rate in the firebox alone

also running at 1800f above the riser tube

so its clocking some heat off of it with very little wood usage

this is both systems one with alot of loading and another with just a log loaded into it

note hardwood is being used

use of electric if used as a boiler just the pump

 

[gaz1]

ive had too dig this out as theres some extra info with it as this was posted on my other website

The boiler I looked at is exactly like the green one pictured above. The water jackets are top and sides of fire box (the dimensions of the fire box are below. This boiler has an electric draft now meaning it opens and closes via room thermostat. No forced air draft just all open and closed down to all but small amount to keep fire smoldering. The guy I talked to this morning say his boiler runs with a max water temp of 180 F. These cost $6,000 to $10,000. Even if A design could cut the wood consumption from 20 loggers cords to 10 this would save these guys $1500-$2000 a year. I know with my big rocket stove I could heat the same cubic ft. for 5 cords or less. Problem is these guys are heating 2 and three separate buildings with water radiator exchangers not air ducts.

Anyway I have had a number of guys stop in to my shop and ask me if I could build them a rocket stove insert to go inside there outside boiler. So today I went over and measured the inside of an outside boiler

44 inches deep X 35 inches wide X 40 inches high. The door opening is 29 inches high X 21 inches wide. This boiler was made by CLASSIC. Most of my neighbors have these. Anyway they burn 20 plus cords of wood a year, they smoke like crazy. My Rocket stove has everyone talking here as I am burning a fraction of the wood and no smoke. Like I was telling Dale (trying2hard) I can't go into town with out someone asking about my stove. Now the word is out about my affordable rocket stove I am building now and it seems like I am getting a lot of drop in visits to check out the new design.

Anyway if someone has any ideas on a possible rocket stove insert for these outside wood boilers I would love to here from you.

 

[gaz1]

the other im aware of is a farm boiler

Ive tried to provide you on what you maybe looking for

I hope all this info helps you decide what your after and looking for

all depends on if your interested in building one or buying one now

 

[fizzy]

Those look amazing but I bet they don't come cheap!
Just right for what I want but not really suitable as a focal point of a big room.
I am "hoping" to buy an old property to convert in the next few years - perhaps an old church or school or similar. Or failing that an old farmhouse.

 

[gaz1]

i can say these have been homemade

the farm one has also been homemade
and theres a downdraft boiler that has been homemade and is working well

the vortex has been created by rocket stoves so is easily created