brightspark
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yup namely on cold water and u can thread it down partition walls to feed a shower but useless on hot systems
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brightspark
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when u get called out as many times as I do to water damage with leaking plastic joints u will change your mind. I wouldn't have it fitted free
Seadog
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I've never had any problems. If a liner isn't used, you're asking for problems, and I'm sure you know how easy it is for someone not familiar with the fittings to think they've pushed the pipe fully home when, in fact, it needs that extra shove to get it into the O ring. Lack of lube usually.
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Aye, there's nothing like a drop of lube to help shove your pipe through the O-ring.
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my mate had his CH replaced, his place had the old 8mm pipe to the rads from a manifold that was fed from the boiler.
also the plumber did the plumbing for the bathroom refurb while he was there.
sitting in his kitchen one day, i said to him what's that noise...
cant hear anything he said.... i said it sounds like running water..
aww proberly nextdoor just used the loo.... i said no way thats been going to long for a loo refill.
i said its coming from under the floor.
he went under the stairs, and throu a little door that takes you to under the floor...
mains cold water going to the one of the taps in the bathroom was squirting everywhere.
quick fit plastic pipe and connectors.
what a mess..... he said he was glad it happened under there.......
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someone had suggested plastic, doing the tails in copper or chrome - beware chrome you cant use push fit fittings and you need to buff the chrome off before you solder it
weve been using either swaged copper or crimp plastic fittings as weve had too many problems with push fit especially when the floor sanders vibrate the joints
weve been using either swaged copper or crimp plastic fittings as weve had too many problems with push fit especially when the floor sanders vibrate the joints
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very interesting and not a normal occurrence, but understand the issues, it could cause.
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TBH think its opertator error but the leaks have started after the floor sanding and the boss insisting he had done everything right
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TBH think its opertator error but the leaks have started after the floor sanding and the boss insisting he had done everything right
The plastic push-fits are easy to put together wrongly - you need to use a pipe insert and make sure the pipe ends are pushed right home inside the fitting, which sometimes takes quite a bit of effort. Also the ends need to be neatly cut or you can nip the internal seals. But when they are made up right, I can't see much budging them.
A downside is you need to clip the plastic pipes very closely if you are wanting nice straight runs - it tends to want to recreate the coil shape it became used to on the shelf.
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Nobody say "OH MATRON" like Kenneth Williams----- HE HE!
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Its OK, our collective experience is over 100 yrs LOL
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Might I just say first off I had a conservatory business for many years so I am not guessing here.
A rad off you current central heating is not a good choice at all.
Forget building regs though nobody is looking
Your boiler was rated for the rads on the system adding a big large demand one is like trying to tow a caravan with a micra
Your boiler will be past its best days?
A conventional rad is too slow and relies on a better degree of insulation
Conservatories are often not in constant use - why have the rad pumping out heat when your likely not going to need it and if you turn it on off it will not bring g the room up to temp fast enough to be of much use.
Go get a proper conservatory heater or an electric fan heater or electric fire
A rad off you current central heating is not a good choice at all.
Forget building regs though nobody is looking
Your boiler was rated for the rads on the system adding a big large demand one is like trying to tow a caravan with a micra
Your boiler will be past its best days?
A conventional rad is too slow and relies on a better degree of insulation
Conservatories are often not in constant use - why have the rad pumping out heat when your likely not going to need it and if you turn it on off it will not bring g the room up to temp fast enough to be of much use.
Go get a proper conservatory heater or an electric fan heater or electric fire
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Lots of assumptions there. Your boiler will likely be able to handle another rad unless its close to maxing out already, you are right you would be wise to check but any decent plumber fitting a system wouldn't spec a boiler "exactly" the right size for the amount of rads, it would always have a bit of spare capacity.
A TRV means you can effectively isolate the radiator when not in use, or have it regulating at a low constant temperature if needed.
Gas heating (Assuming mains gas) is going to be a cheaper than electric, particularly if your already heating the rest of the house this way.
