I wouldn't recommend powder for a car, if it discharges accidentally it will cause that much damage it will write off the car (I know of somebody that it happened to). Foam is what is used in most rally & race cars & that is what I would use.
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I wouldn't recommend powder for a car, if it discharges accidentally it will cause that much damage it will write off the car (I know of somebody that it happened to). Foam is what is used in most rally & race cars & that is what I would use.
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God God, just have two [or even more, and obviously all appropriately located] should you feel the need to assess the fire and select and use the appropriate type.
Because a] common sense is a misnomer b]most people panic when faced with fire and all they might know/may have been taught goes out the window or door, as they should...
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And I don't think tooth sucking experts, and 'experts' help. Practical training does, and I'm glad I've had some. Even discharging an out of date extinguisher at a suitable home made fire might do some good.
Leaving the building and letting the fire and rescue people do their business is very good advice, but not much help when you're on a fishing boat.
Leaving the building and letting the fire and rescue people do their business is very good advice, but not much help when you're on a fishing boat.
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But, there you are in a whole new ball game and set of rules.
It is so difference there is, for that, a whole set of regulations and requirements.
It is a lot more interesting than the normal ones. As they are written by people who have done that job.
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Just because a Powder has a ABC fire rating does not mean it is suitable for all types of fires, all the time.
Thanks Chubb for selling that idea.
Dry powder should be used for mainly Liquid fuel fires. As the primary use.
The A next.
Class C is advised for a trained operative to tackle a gas fire.
Thanks Chubb for selling that idea.
Dry powder should be used for mainly Liquid fuel fires. As the primary use.
The A next.
Class C is advised for a trained operative to tackle a gas fire.
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People should learn as much as they can about dealing with emergency situations and good practical experience is the best but sound practical advice on how to deal with it is a good second. "I won't tell you because you're not qualified" is the absolute worst case.
Sure, run away and let the experts deal with it is the safest, easiest option for passing the buck but leads to ridiculous elfin safety nonsense we see so often it's almost invisible.
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What is a safe speed for this bend?
Oh I reckon I'd hit that at 70/80 and take it from there.
Ok, put the signs up, make it a statutory limit and put your name on it.
Oh. Err, well in that case let's say max speed 20mph to be on the safe side ....
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Hi is that emergency services?
Yes.
My kitchen is on fire, there's a load of smoke.
Get out now!
Ok. Is there anything I can try to put it out?
No, leave the building immediately and we'll send the Fire Brigade. What is your address?
Flat 16 Grenfell Tower...
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Back in January this year. I gave a neighbour 4 fire extinguishers. 1 xCO2, 2 x 9lt Foams , 1x 6kg powders and 1 6lt water.
All in date for service, just removed from an old site.
Today his often repaired lawn mower went up.
Did he grab a fire extinguisher?
No. Called 999.
I spoke to him afterwards and asked why.
His replay was he was scared and didn't know what one to use.
Odd, as I did tell him when I gave him the units, what they could be used for.
All in date for service, just removed from an old site.
Today his often repaired lawn mower went up.
Did he grab a fire extinguisher?
No. Called 999.
I spoke to him afterwards and asked why.
His replay was he was scared and didn't know what one to use.
Odd, as I did tell him when I gave him the units, what they could be used for.
Co2 is used mainly for electric fires...or flood systems.for wood i would say water, dry powder for everything else tho it does make a mess, CO2 dont make the mess but no idea about how it mixes with electrickery...i had a couple of each at my garage
Or high pressure fog....
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Folk often panic when faced with a crisis.
Correct...problem is they used to be Black. Now they are all the same colour with labels. Fine if you can read.
Halons are primarily used in aviation as the fumes are toxic.
BTF (used to be green) was awesome.
BromoChlorodiFluoromethane .
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The EU forced through regulations that's all fire extinguishers are to be red.
The UK forced back and managed to get a colour band, No more than 10% that could use the old colours to identify their use..
Red for water.
Black for CO2
Blue for powder.
Canary Yellow for Wet Chem
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True.
As BAFE registered engineer I have to stay with their views, that he did the correct thing.
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I was surprised they were not stopped using them before now.
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I was surprised they were not stopped using them before now.
They have, but this year all Halon units should be removed.
2015 was the last year that they could be fitted, as they have a 5 year life span before they need an extended service, 2020 means they should be gone.
As they can not be field striped it is out with old, in with new.
Same problem. They were good at making up rhymes about calling the Fire Brigade out and getting out etc.
Sadly I have seen carnage caused by a small fire that could easily be extinguished by someone capable of operating a milling machine and lathe and a simple bit of training along with the foresight to buy an extinguisher.
BUT my suggestion scheme entry to provide free on-site training (whilst we were on call and doing local topography reconasance) was deemed to lack value.
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Bcf was also used for explosion supression too, not sure if the MOD still use it for that.
Use of an extinguisher in my opinion is something Id dscribe as a basic life skill like first aid, and as such should be taught in schools under the "common sense class" sadly its not hence the fear and lack of basic undestanding
Use of an extinguisher in my opinion is something Id dscribe as a basic life skill like first aid, and as such should be taught in schools under the "common sense class" sadly its not hence the fear and lack of basic undestanding
