1965 BSA Bantam

[Robotstar5]

Assume the more 'upmarket' had the chrome tank? What were the other differences?

From what I could see, it was just the painted tank side instead of chrome.

 

[Beeezer]

I try to keep stuff period correct and the modern plastic cable ties holding the wiring to the handlebars just didn't look right so much research later found these for a few quid....

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Rubber replica cable ties, they were called "dog bones" for obvious reasons

Look up John Bull clips/ties, I think that’s what they were called.

 

[badabec]

My friend bought some from a Citroen specialist. Three weeks later, they had fallen apart.

 

[Robotstar5]

After a good soak in penetrating fluid, the carb is apart and seems to be in decent condition inside.

The only casualty was the cap ring that had to be cut off to save damaging the body, but new ones are still available.

 

[arther dailey]

according to henry cole the bantam was originally german , gkw ,and was "given" to us as part of repiration , discuss.

 

[Mikes]

according to henry cole the bantam was originally german , gkw ,and was "given" to us as part of repiration , discuss.

DKW

 

[arther dailey]

specsavers might get a visit soon..

 

[Rannsachair]

according to henry cole the bantam was originally german , gkw ,and was "given" to us as part of repiration , discuss.

It was also used as the base for the Harley Davidson Hummer, a few Russian manufacturers and Yamaha were influenced by it with their first motorcycle the YA-1.

 

[mechman]

I think the Bantam engine would run in reverse in certain circumstances.
Norm.

 

[Seadog]

I think the Bantam engine would run in reverse in certain circumstances.
Norm.

As will all two strokes.

 

[Gareth J]

according to henry cole the bantam was originally german , gkw ,and was "given" to us as part of repiration , discuss.

Shame BSA never kept up pace with 2 stroke development. The last bantam, of the late 60s, early 70s was barely changed engine wise, other than the cc, than the first '40s one.

 

[Morris]

As will all two strokes.

Not sure that applies to the Deltic

 

[arther dailey]

It was also used as the base for the Harley Davidson Hummer, a few Russian manufacturers and Yamaha were influenced by it with their first motorcycle the YA-1.

were the yamaha and suzuki twins influenced by the greeves twin, as the exhaust note is supprisingly similar , the 250/350 rd/hustler variants ?

 

[OJCar]

Walter Kaaden was the son of a director DKW before the war.
During the war he was a part of Von Braun's team at Peenemunde.

DKW became IFA post war, Kaaden joined IFA.
IFA and ZPH were rivals.
Both brands were based on the DKW RT125 engine.
The DDR government was not very happy with the war between the two brands and forced Daniel Zimmermann (the ZPH designer) to collaborate with Walter.
The result was a rotary-valve intake engine, Kaaden used an oscilloscope to understand the resonance of the exhaust system to maximise power.
1956 IFA became MZ.

Ernst Degner joined MZ from ZPH as a Rider/Engineer.
Defected to the West ( with assistance from Joe Ehrlich (EMC Motorcycles) ).
Degner collaborated with Suzuki to pass on Walter Kaaden's MZ know-how.

So it may be claimed that the DKW RT125 engine is the direct grandfather of the Suzuki RG500.
(RG500 is essentially four 125 engines travelling in close formation, each engine needing synchronised to the others when you set it up).

 

[Rannsachair]

Walter Kaaden was the son of a director DKW before the war.
During the war he was a part of Von Braun's team at Peenemunde.

DKW became IFA post war, Kaaden joined IFA.
IFA and ZPH were rivals.
Both brands were based on the DKW RT125 engine.
The DDR government was not very happy with the war between the two brands and forced Daniel Zimmermann (the ZPH designer) to collaborate with Walter.
The result was a rotary-valve intake engine, Kaaden used an oscilloscope to understand the resonance of the exhaust system to maximise power.
1956 IFA became MZ.

Ernst Degner joined MZ from ZPH as a Rider/Engineer.
Defected to the West ( with assistance from Joe Ehrlich (EMC Motorcycles) ).
Degner collaborated with Suzuki to pass on Walter Kaaden's MZ know-how.

So it may be claimed that the DKW RT125 engine is the direct grandfather of the Suzuki RG500.
(RG500 is essentially four 125 engines travelling in close formation, each engine needing synchronised to the others when you set it up).

Have you read:

Highly recommended.

 

[OJCar]

^ I don't think I've read that book.

I helped (a little) when EMC returned to Road Racing in the early 80s so got to hear parts of the story from Dr Joe.