Jobsworth at the tip.

[Psymon]

Today I saw a CO2 cylinder in a cage at the dump. I aksed the council dump operative if I could have it as someone had chucked it away. He said "We can not give them away sorry". I then said could I buy it as I know someone who can fill it for a tenner. I even offered him £20 for the empty cylinder. He then said we have to give them to a firm...

Now £20 is probably more than he earns in a day - whats wrong with people at the dump these days? You can't even recycle things without health and safety coming into it.

 

[JW240]

yeah its the same with the official recycle points for used household stuff (government based institution here). The real scrapyards that recycle metal will sell stuff, but you have to know them. I got various stuff from them, for excellent prices. I suggest going there...

 

[Psymon]

I will try at a scrap yard then. I hope you mean in the UK and not the Netherlands JW240...
Not that there is many around where I live. There is a big steel fabrication place down the road from me however I think they will be expensive to buy metal - would rather recycle stuff. Far more interesting.

 

[fingers99]

The fabrication plant will probably sell you stuff, but you have to talk to the right person. My unobtanium comes out of a skip at a certain power station!

 

[English Steve]

The fabrication plant will probably sell you stuff, but you have to talk to the right person. My unobtanium comes out of a skip at a certain power station!

Ahh skips Most of my material comes out of the one at my day job, which helps me to be 'competitive' in my part-time work.

 

[Psymon]

It's such a shame as my uncle used to own a car scrap yard. Now he runs a caravan transport business. A scrap yard with every type of metal and tool imagineable. Now I have to try to get metal from the general public sources. But when you cant even go to the dump for some metal to recycle the world is going a bit mad. Especially when the council complains we are not recycling enough! Work that one out...

 

[zardoz]

I'm afraid it is a case of knowing someone at the tip or scrappy. These days there are so many pernickity laws of red tape stupidity, the guy could have lost his job if he had sold it you. Maybe for all you know a nosey **** licker workmate was earwigging close by. I have see many people in my local paper done for "stealing" scrap that was thrown away. On the other hand a guy i know is allowed to wander around the local council tip and take whatever he wants. I have even known hm to work all through the night, carrying rolls of carpet miles back to his home. With the police passing him and laughing, as he was a "local character"

So you never know what to think if someone says you cant have anything at the scrappy. I have see people looking into the back of trailers as they queue up outside the tip, and asking for stuff they see in the back. If is dosent get to the tip there is no law about taking it of course.

On the other hand the guy at the tip could just have been a jobsworth creep!

ps: my cousin runs a car scrapyard. Over the last ten years he has been forced to take dozens of courses and pay out over £20,000 out of his own pocket for the privilege. They cant even stack cars on top of one another more than two high these days. Wheres the fun in leaping from car to car if your only 8 feet off the ground!
tsk! Kids today they dont know there born. etc etc...

 

[Hitch]

I dont expect he was on £20 a day, community service i expect.

I chucked a box of mixed rubbish in a skip at the tip the other day, stupid woman went mental at me!

"Well, its too late now its in there isnt it." Got in me van and drove off.

 

[TurboShed]

Went to the tip once, there had been an accident somewhere, a truck loaded with BEER had crashed, and all the beer, Ruddles County, in 2 litre plastic bottle 6 packs, were dumped at the tip. We were in our Landrover, filled the back, probably 20 of the 6 bottle packs. The operative at the tip, put aside a couple of packs for himself, but didn't bat an eyelid at us filling the Landy.

That's something that only happens once in a lifetime I reckon.

 

[Welderpaul]

There's a roaring trade at our tip. Next to each skip is a little pile usually consisting of hoovers, old tools, bikes etc that the skip rats have taken out. Regularly see someone turn up, cash change hands and the pile disappear.
Never bothered to claim anything myself, but often thrown things in which has meant the rats have jumped straight in to claim it.
I always make sure i smash anything that they might be able to claim as it goes in the skip.
Big sign appeared over the last few weeks saying it is illegal to remove anything from the skips. Shame it doesnt apply to their own employees.

 

[snowcat]

£20 a day???????? £80-100 more like, I have to go onto pitsea landfill reasonably regularly for emergency repairs, The guys on the bomags, dozer's and bridge are extremaly militant, if your tipping then you have to be on and off within very set times and days.......

When Iv been on there it was a standing joke, that if you didn't want to be walking or carrying gear the best part of a mile, or spend the morning filling in a hot works ticket, best you had a wad of notes handy...... some of the guys on the bomags would have a hundreds of pounds in cash by the end of the shift to "turn a blind eye".....

about a year ago they finally tightened up on this, and now there all work to rule.... I suspect the transfer stations are the same, If he took cash chances are he would be in for the boot........

BTW the lorry test station was run like this for years as well, the nearer the GV9 the more it would cost you........

 

[Psymon]

Jobsworths

Well if I were earning £20 quid a day then I would have sold something to someone and hope to lose my job... Find something better paid! Whatever happened to people giving a bung for this and that. Why can't people take life a little less seriously. Since all this red tape, health and safety and wot not life and work has become so difficult. I am sure it will only get worse.

 

[zardoz]

Ok Snow', ill be the first to be brave enough to admit. I have no idea what a "bomag" or a "hot works ticket" is ?

ps: i thought the minimum wage was £6+ a day, so an 8 hour day would be approx £50 a day.

 

[snowcat]

heres a Bomag

Hot works ticket, actualy hot works directive and a hot works permit is a method statement to say what your doing, how long your on site what precautions your takeing to prevent fire etc etc........EA want bload before you can weld on there sites...

 

[seriesonewelder]

bomag

This is a 'Bomag' compactor, at a landfill site where I used to work.
It weighs about 50 tons.

 

[Psymon]

Min Wage

Well maybe the official minimum wage may be that. However there are plenty of loop holes in the minimum wage thing. Like working on a government scheme. I remember when I first started work on YTS I was making £64 a week and that was including fares into London of £40. (more than 20 years ago)
I know the government still run schemes like this. Plus community service people do they make anything? I thought that was supposed to be free. Then you have apprentice hairdressers - engineers etc. I bet they dont make £250 + I know of plenty of cash in hand type casual work jobs that pay £25 to a max of £45 a day.
Minimum wage only applies to people who are officially employed/PAYE. Still whatever they earn, EVERYONE could do with a little bung every now and then...

 

[snowcat]

not a union man perchance psymon???

 

[Psymon]

Unions?

Nope, I am self employed. Been so for about 8 years. I have worked in plenty of cash jobs. Made bugger all in all of them. Now work for myself and never been happier. Born in Benfleet so I know all about pitsea tip. My uncle used to bury tyres there, stack them in order to use the hole in the middle as a place to dump chemicals or oil around 20 years ago. (so he told me anyway)

 

[bill_gj]

Welderpaul - just like that at my local tip (Rayleigh) - There's a lot of "sequestering" done. A bloke in a white Kangoo van arrives on a regular basis and takes all the Dyson vacuum cleaners away. I also note that all the "electronic" scrap is also sorted and some of that doesn't seem to go to the official disposal route. Bikes are the other thing that can't seem to just go into the skip for steel for some reason.
I was down there about 6 months ago and I saw an old Wolf drill stand. Went to pick it up and was told in no uncertain way that I was "on CCTV".

 

[snowcat]

Next to each skip is a little pile usually consisting of hoovers, old tools, bikes etc that the skip rats have taken out..

Skip rats