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I was not actually thinking of using it for NAS. But if I get my backup sorted I plan to upgrade my other PC...
But it is a good place to back up to
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about 2.5 years ago ( think) I caught something, despite having up to date AV... killed NAS and desktop HDD's... unreadable and could not repair/reformat even with proper tools and under linux, fortunately my server ran linux and was untouched...
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WD or seagate are the only real choices for hard SATA hard drives. If you value the information you are planning to put on the drives, dont bother with SATA drives, use SAS but that will mean you need enterprise equipment really. SATA drives, even the ones "designed" for NAS storage really aren't. they are generally just re-badged desktop hard drives which will more than likely spin slower to save on power consumption but the rest of the parts are the same and not designed for 24/7 use. if you are ok with 7200rpm then you can now buy 1tb+ SAS drives that spin at 7200rpm and are well priced compared to a 900GB 10K/15K SAS drive. If you do go down this route, look out for a used server with 4 SAS drives capacity (Ebay is your friend). You will need at bare minimum 8GB ram to run freenas and be stable. Freenas cache's the most frequently used data onto RAM for quick response times and so eats up RAM quickly. Used server ram is cheaper than desktop RAM nowadays and servers are built to last. Go HP or Dell. Any questions, just ask.
Depends how fast you want to go and how much money you've got
It does start getting pricey very quickly as you need the network and enclosure with the speed to do the ssd array justice.
Any used server ram on ebay? Servers boards etc. What should I be looking for.?
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You're soon going to fill your new shed/workshop at this rate
It's full already....my son was cussing yesterday as it's in such a mess................main reason being my wife wants 4 rooms decorating and 2 rooms of my stuff crammed into a small 10 foot x 6 foot space (including my computers) lol
Oh and my son seems to forget the fact I babysit for his son 5 days a week since his girlfriend got promoted to supervisor and 40 hours a week......
I will get there though
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That's a full size rack mount server. Probably a bit overkill for home use. What storage capacity do you require? How many hard drives are you thinking?
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That server takes 25 2.5" drives. Like I said, overkill. Something like this would be better on power, smaller and a lot quieter
371493583500 Can install a SAS controller if you wanted to go down SAS route. Processor could be upgraded to xeon if you needed it, but you don't.
371493583500 Can install a SAS controller if you wanted to go down SAS route. Processor could be upgraded to xeon if you needed it, but you don't.
But that one is half as much again for what looks like a barebones PC
How good would a standard pc actually be compared to dedicated server board ram and processor.
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It would perform just fine. In my professional opinion and from experience, server hardware is built to last and has features built in that may be useful for such a project (RAID support, good mounting for hard drives with adequate cooling. If you are using Freenas, you don't need to use a hardware RAD solution provided by a server as Freenas has built in software RAID which uses the ZF file set. This is perfectly fine for what you need. However, as it uses software raid, the processor and RAM are responsible for building and running the software RAID so it is a good idea to use ECC RAM for a server. For example, say whilst processing something that is to be written to the RAID array, something goes wrong in the RAM and an error occurs, if this is not detected it could be processed further which may corrupt your file or even worse the whole array or may just crash the system. With ECC, it checks for errors and tries to prevent this from happening. Servers tend to have better power saving techniques too as they are on 24/7, they need to be as energy efficient as possible.
Just my opinion though.
Just my opinion though.
So if I get some ECC ram to fit one of my existing PC's it would serve my purpose (excuse the pun) at least short term. I only really need to amalgamate my data and files in one place while I cull/prune it.
I need to access it from 3 areas in the house depending on what PC /laptop I need to use.
Speed is not a game changer as my wifi is not brilliant anyway due to usING a virgin media superhub.
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If your motherboard will take ecc then it won't hurt, most don't.
OK ...sorry to be a pain is this ok then 371495357350.
Server hardware is physically large, noisy under power, consumes lots of power, needs a lot of cooling and in most cases complete overkill. I keep my 47U racks in a outbuilding but I wouldn't be having one in my house again like I did in earlier days.
For drive models, theyre all consumable now. Just keep backups and expect the odd failed drive. I've got bad seagates, wd etc. I've never had a bad ssd yet though, only spinning rust. I've got a shelf that have been taken out early for odd noises when the heads are tracking. My main "pc" has a ssd primary with a big storage sata drive in it.
For drive models, theyre all consumable now. Just keep backups and expect the odd failed drive. I've got bad seagates, wd etc. I've never had a bad ssd yet though, only spinning rust. I've got a shelf that have been taken out early for odd noises when the heads are tracking. My main "pc" has a ssd primary with a big storage sata drive in it.
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