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This stuff? It's to be worth a shot for the price.
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Bikes aren't my thing, but chains I do work with.
Quite often chains and sprockets do need replacing together, you can see the sprocket wear easily enough if you know what to look for.
Chains you can feel the amount of play between the links, and they'll bend too far in the wrong direction - i.e hold it sideways and they'll bend like a banana while a new chain stays almost straight.
Worn sprockets/chains which aren't replaced together wear out again in no time - i.e a new chain on old sprockets are immediately ruined.
What can be the cause of chain breakages is when the sprocket teeth are worn to the point where they're hooked, the chain then snags and bang.
Quite often chains and sprockets do need replacing together, you can see the sprocket wear easily enough if you know what to look for.
Chains you can feel the amount of play between the links, and they'll bend too far in the wrong direction - i.e hold it sideways and they'll bend like a banana while a new chain stays almost straight.
Worn sprockets/chains which aren't replaced together wear out again in no time - i.e a new chain on old sprockets are immediately ruined.
What can be the cause of chain breakages is when the sprocket teeth are worn to the point where they're hooked, the chain then snags and bang.
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No, diesel, kerosene or best of all, paraffin.
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I could get some of this tomorrow. If it doesn't work as a lubricant, I could set fire to it to heat it up.
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- Chemical care: Harmful, can cause lung damage if swallowed. Repeated exposure can cause skin dryness or cracking. Flammable - keep lamps filled with this liquid out of reach of children
- Caution not suitable for under 21
Better get a 'responsible' adult to get it.
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I like to have some in an ex '3 in 1' oil can for dribbling onto seized parts.
Heat is usually the answer btw, don't tell me you don't have a heat source in your workshop?
Btw, you asked about brokenbiker - he left, I can't remember why
Heat is usually the answer btw, don't tell me you don't have a heat source in your workshop?
Btw, you asked about brokenbiker - he left, I can't remember why
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I think I've got an empty of 3 in 1 kicking about. As for heating I've got an electric heat gun and a stupid little Dremel blow torch. Are torches available that fit onto big propane tanks?(13KG type things)
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Yes, they're common enough (no, I can't spare mine, sorry!).
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Propane-B...t=LH_DefaultDomain_3&var=&hash=item4637724de1
They're the sort of thing you ought to be able to pick up for nothing, when you don't want one of course as dictated by sods law.
Of course, someone setting up a nice workshop as you have (mill, lathe etc, i'm getting jealous) should be on the lookout for a cylinder of oxygen to heat things up properly!
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Propane-B...t=LH_DefaultDomain_3&var=&hash=item4637724de1
They're the sort of thing you ought to be able to pick up for nothing, when you don't want one of course as dictated by sods law.
Of course, someone setting up a nice workshop as you have (mill, lathe etc, i'm getting jealous) should be on the lookout for a cylinder of oxygen to heat things up properly!
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That's the thing I'm after, I'll ask my dad if he knows of one stashed away somewhere. I've got everything but oxygen now (hoses, regulators, flashback arrestors and torches) but in all honesty, I'm scared of trying it out by myself.
Anyway, back to the bike, I'd rather avoid using flames if possible because it's a painted thing and it's only a few winches away from the BB bearing with rubber seals. We'll see how the paraffin goes tomorrow.
.Anyway, back to the bike, I'd rather avoid using flames if possible because it's a painted thing and it's only a few winches away from the BB bearing with rubber seals. We'll see how the paraffin goes tomorrow.
That's often what happens regardless, if/when it was caused when joining the chain sometimes the outer plates/links will bend far enough for the chain to come apart (or jam things before it lets go completely when the bike has gears), sometimes the damage caused when a pin is forced in results in the chain snapping. If yours let go with a cleanish break nowhere near the pin holes in the outer or inner plates then small, worn sprockets and not enough slack for the chain to skip is probably the cause
With you, the business end of many crank extractors is a bit mickey mouse in this respect as are the adaptor bushings for different styles of BB spindle. I used to make my own, either a top hat slug to drop into the end of the crank or modify a spare bolt by grinding it's head down. The modified bolt trick only works properly if the extra has a free moving bushing in the end like this style
this style with a solid nose is fairly pants by comparison
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That's the thing I'm after, I'll ask my dad if he knows of one stashed away somewhere. I've got everything but oxygen now (hoses, regulators, flashback arrestors and torches) but in all honesty, I'm scared of trying it out by myself
You really shouldn't contemplate firing up an oxy fuel rig unless the kit is tested and certified safe and you are trained/qualified.
There are certain very important steps when using gas equipment that if ignored are potentially life threatening.
The gas rig is by far the most dangerous piece of equipment in any fabrication shop and should not be used without adequate knowledge of its workings, appropriate pressure and purging procedure and safe shut down techniques in the event of a backfire or nozzle blockage.
If used correctly the risks are almost zero, if used without adequate training then you are treading a very dangerous path, for yourself and anyone unfortunate enough to be within the blast radius.
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Oxy/acetylene is something you ought skip unless you really have need. There's also the safety factor of storage as well as use, especially when you're storing in a garage on the house. Just get some form of torch for a propane cylinder. MachineMart do some kits with various nozzles, or there's the likes of Bullfinch, Sievert etc.
The top hat thing in that pic is the adaptor for octalink bottom brackets, for the Park tools extractor above it the button in the end is swapped for different sizes. Personally i'd be trying to clean up the end of the BB axle as mentioned earlier and then making a sleeve/bushing to give it something solid to bear against. Plenty of plusgas etc in the meantime and then see if it moves without needing stupid amounts of heaving. If it doesn't then it's time for some heat
If it's just the crank you need to get off and the fixing has come out fine but you can't screw the crank off the bottom bracket SIMPLY MODIFY A CHEAP BALL JOINT FORK USED ON CARS.
Will take some grinding to get the right shape for the ball joint fork but once you have got it to fit between the bottom bracket and the crank a quick blow with a hammer and it flies off.
Will take some grinding to get the right shape for the ball joint fork but once you have got it to fit between the bottom bracket and the crank a quick blow with a hammer and it flies off.
