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at the front yes, at the rear where I assume we are talking, its not so bad.
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Thanks for the help guys.
Id rather have it done professionally but the only way this can be financially viable is if I do all/most of it myself.
Im not in any hurry so plenty of research will be done before I start and I know a couple of people in the trade who would be willing to lend a hand.
This will probable make me sound dumb now.
It was mentioned earlier about using foundation blocks. Are these breeze blocks as a google and a peruse through a couple of books doesn't seem to give me the answer as to whether they are one and the same or not. Great if they are as I can get some free
Id rather have it done professionally but the only way this can be financially viable is if I do all/most of it myself.
Im not in any hurry so plenty of research will be done before I start and I know a couple of people in the trade who would be willing to lend a hand.
This will probable make me sound dumb now.
It was mentioned earlier about using foundation blocks. Are these breeze blocks as a google and a peruse through a couple of books doesn't seem to give me the answer as to whether they are one and the same or not. Great if they are as I can get some free
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Ok, believe I have it.
Foundation blocks are thermalite, not concrete like breeze blocks.
Please correct me if I'm wrong.
Foundation blocks are thermalite, not concrete like breeze blocks.
Please correct me if I'm wrong.
Thermalite syle of block, that lay direct onto the concrete foundation, different manufacturers make the blocks in different sizes, Because of their width they span what will be the Cavity above DPC. depending on how you lay them will determine the width of the cavity. The very big advatage is you build up in no time at all,- because of there size. heres a link to Celcon, but if you google "foundation blocks" you`ll see a load of links. When you order remember you dont need them for the outer and inner skin- they do both, I`ve know people order twice as many as they needed.!!!!!!
http://www.hhcelcon.co.uk/files/download/51-Foundation-Blocks.pdf
http://www.tarmacbuildingproducts.c...t_aircrete_blocks/durox_foundation_310mm.aspx
Stan
http://www.hhcelcon.co.uk/files/download/51-Foundation-Blocks.pdf
http://www.tarmacbuildingproducts.c...t_aircrete_blocks/durox_foundation_310mm.aspx
Stan
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Excellent thank you.
The more I look into this the harder work it gets
Ive now got to check if the sewer runs below and find out what the water boards requirements are for that. Its all going to add up.
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If your doing the foundations you will also end up doing the brickwork. I owned a conservatory company and the cure for a badly laid out base was a big hammer (its a nightmare when levels and angles are out for the joinery team), try getting a decent bricky to work to your foundation and most wont so consider this carefully. I shouldn't build a conservatory if you really want another room because they are not, no matter what glass and clever roof system you use they are a conservatory and that is why the boom is well and truely over - most saw them as cheap extensions!
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I'm just getting an orangery done because of all the comments about conservatorys. It was a waste of time, too hot in summer, freezing in winter, that one was half brick, half glass with poly carb roof.
The new one will be much more brick, and Celsius glass all round so I'm hoping with a decent radiator we'll be able to use it most of the year round.
Re planning, I was told single storey up to 4m from your house doesn't require planning??
The new one will be much more brick, and Celsius glass all round so I'm hoping with a decent radiator we'll be able to use it most of the year round.
Re planning, I was told single storey up to 4m from your house doesn't require planning??
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For a limited time, till May 2016 I think, you can go out 8m if your house is detached.
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Only if Planning think it will have a detrimental effect on the neighbours.
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An orangery is frankly a conservatory with a posher name, the clue is in the name (used to grow oranges in posh homes before the days when we could import them effectively). Though many firms haven't a clue what a type of conservatory should be called beyond what sells and often use incorrect naming. If you want it to stay cool in during full sun put a full proper roof on it and adequate ventilation (considering which way it faces). If you want it to stay warm on a cold overcast winter day whatever type on low e glass etc you use it wont compare to tile thermal blanket and 70mm kingspan (as building regs for a new roof) indeed the thermal blanket (like tri-iso) "I might have the spelling wrong" on its own has a better u-value than the best glass roof.
Don't get me wrong conservatories can be really great, as long as you want a conservatory not a home extension. I will in time build a rather special one along the back of here but I have no illusion about what it will be after putting in so many
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Why pay the Planning Department to tell you it doesn't need planning approval when it is all laid out on the Planning Portal website.
Last time I enquired our local planning department were charging £160 to check whether your plans need approval or not!
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In the main for your future and continued legal protection. I know two different jobs were the owners lost everything they had in battles with planning, so as a result if I aint happy to knock it down....
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Are you paying the planners or the customer?
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Is there a difference? To be fair anyone but an architect who deals with planners for their client and even pays his clients fees is being dumb. I have advised them to do this (mostly in written form) many times, imagine the situation "you said, she said, he said" nah not happening! There is so much to consider on planning in different areas, I remember having a conservatory excepted provided it was "dark green" in the lake District national park, ok fine and well but it was a very modern house in and out with white upvc tilt n turn windows that had been built over 15 years ok that's national park but there are other bits that occur locally.
There are people who make a good living out of being "planning consultants" beating the planners at their own game to their clients favour. I am sort of glad I am out of it professionally because there is no longer any real money in it and many more pitfalls to fall into legally
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I just think it's very easy to tell other people to spend if it's not coming out of your pocket.
I have built numerous outbuildings, a Sun room, workshops, a summer house, porches and an extension that was over 120m2 on our current and previous property, all without PP or having submitted plans to the planning authority to see whether they required PP.
These were all completed under Permitted Development. If I had submitted plans for the planners to check I would be well over £2000, maybe £3000, out of pocket for the same result.
I have built numerous outbuildings, a Sun room, workshops, a summer house, porches and an extension that was over 120m2 on our current and previous property, all without PP or having submitted plans to the planning authority to see whether they required PP.
These were all completed under Permitted Development. If I had submitted plans for the planners to check I would be well over £2000, maybe £3000, out of pocket for the same result.
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Some great info here.
I've checked and we don't need planning permission.
I do need permission from water company but thankfully no "build over" costs as the pipework doesn't qualify for it. So that's about £800 saved.
It will be a half glass half brick with panel roof.
I'd love a big sun room with proper roof but that's not going to happen in the foreseeable future so this is what I'm doing for now. Maybe in a few years it will be replaced but only if something dramatically changes in my life.
It's not being built as an extra room, it's just to help with kids in and out of the garden in the Sumner. If I can integrate decking somehow then I will as and when money permits to make a nice BBQ/seating area.
I've checked and we don't need planning permission.
I do need permission from water company but thankfully no "build over" costs as the pipework doesn't qualify for it. So that's about £800 saved.
It will be a half glass half brick with panel roof.
I'd love a big sun room with proper roof but that's not going to happen in the foreseeable future so this is what I'm doing for now. Maybe in a few years it will be replaced but only if something dramatically changes in my life.
It's not being built as an extra room, it's just to help with kids in and out of the garden in the Sumner. If I can integrate decking somehow then I will as and when money permits to make a nice BBQ/seating area.
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you don't need to spend that sort of money on planning even if required, in fact there is actually no need to submit correctly scaled drawings for full planning permission only Builing regs approval. I will have a wild punt and guess monkeymark paid nothing at his council to get confirmation none required. The last fee I paid for planning permission on a 1 million property was about £250 , I think your getting all muddled up with bregs and pp. Building regs needs proper drawings, usually calcs on the stucturals an is based upon percentage of the build cost they estimate
